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re: Les Miles never ceases to amaze me
Posted on 4/7/17 at 4:06 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 4/7/17 at 4:06 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Yeah because bama wasnt just as good. If your premise is that Saban is a better coach than Miles then I don't know anyone that would disagree.
True however in 2011 even Alabama might have argued for Les.
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Posted on 4/7/17 at 7:14 pm to Rickdaddy4188
So Miles never faced defenses ranked that low or division 2 teams who don't even get ranked? And I love the double standard you live to stick to. It's ok to shite on any accomplishment that didn't include Miles (that's just stating facts) but if you do the same thing to Miles it's shitting on him. If you wanna knight for Miles fine but don't pretend you're indifferent or fair about your comparisons. That's disingenuous.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 7:41 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Will he only take a P5 coaching job?. I thought Purdue,Minnesota,Oregon,Houston were all open this past year.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 7:51 pm to chadr07
This is the bottom line for me.
LSU would have been better off having fired CLM 2 years ago. We are WAY better off as far as coaching goes today compared to the last 3 years with the HC (CEO can't be a worse day game coach, recruiting on CLM's level remains to be seen but good so far, OC- much better than Cam, DC- same as CLM's ending tenure and a beast.)
Also the staff CEO has brought in besides the OC is an improvement. Coaching has improved significantly for LSU--still you have to contend with the schedule and other SEC teams improvements to see if the W-L record is improved. CLM's record the last few years was inflated with OOC wins and easy SEC east wins.
LSU would have been better off having fired CLM 2 years ago. We are WAY better off as far as coaching goes today compared to the last 3 years with the HC (CEO can't be a worse day game coach, recruiting on CLM's level remains to be seen but good so far, OC- much better than Cam, DC- same as CLM's ending tenure and a beast.)
Also the staff CEO has brought in besides the OC is an improvement. Coaching has improved significantly for LSU--still you have to contend with the schedule and other SEC teams improvements to see if the W-L record is improved. CLM's record the last few years was inflated with OOC wins and easy SEC east wins.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:07 pm to ShortyRob
If Rick gets involved in a thread, its going to be a minimum of 12 pages as he actually delves into research to try and win an internet battle of opinions.
Didn't he say he has a degree from Duke? I thought most of those types were involved in more constructive pursuits.
Didn't he say he has a degree from Duke? I thought most of those types were involved in more constructive pursuits.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:49 pm to dljtigers
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This is the bottom line for me. LSU would have been better off having fired CLM 2 years ago. We are WAY better off as far as coaching goes today compared to the last 3 years with the HC (CEO can't be a worse day game coach, recruiting on CLM's level remains to be seen but good so far, OC- much better than Cam, DC- same as CLM's ending tenure and a beast.) Also the staff CEO has brought in besides the OC is an improvement. Coaching has improved significantly for LSU--still you have to contend with the schedule and other SEC teams improvements to see if the W-L record is improved. CLM's record the last few years was inflated with OOC wins and easy SEC east wins.
This is a reasonable, well thought-out opinion.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:16 pm to dljtigers
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CLM's record the last few years was inflated with OOC wins and easy SEC east wins.
LSU's record since 2013.
2013 OOC schedule: TCU, UAB, Kent State, & Furman - 4 wins, no losses
2013 SEC East schedule: Georgia & Florida - loss to Georgia and beat Florida
2014 OOC schedule: Wisconsin, Sam Houston State, UL Monroe & New Mexico State - 4 wins, no losses
2014 SEC East schedule: Kentucky & Florida - 2 wins, no losses
2015 OOC schedule: Syracuse, Western Michigan & Western Kentucky - 3 wins, no losses
2015 SEC East schedule: South Carolina & Florida - 2 wins, no losses
2016 OOC schedule: Wisconsin & Jacksonville State - 1 win & 1 loss (Miles coached games) Southern Mississippi - win, ( Orgeron coached games)
2016 SEC East schedule: Missouri & Florida - beat Missouri and lost to Florida (both games coached by Orgeron)
2017 OOC schedule: BYU, Chattanooga, Syracuse & Troy
2017 SEC East schedule: Tennessee & Florida
I'll agree that some of those OOC games are are rent-a-wins (all programs schedule similar type opponents) but they isn't anything easy about playing programs like TCU or Wisconsin. As far as "easy SEC east wins", I'll disagree with you. Miles went 5-1 his last six games against SEC teams , beating Florida 3 times in the process.
The BS about easy OOC and eastern division opponents is retarded. If you believe Miles padded his record with push overs, I'm sure you'll agree that damn near every program does the exact same thing. Next years LSU (OOC & SEC east) schedule is on par with past seasons schedules. So I'm sure you'll admit that Orgeron is inflating his record as well
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:20 pm to earl keese
What's Miles' record vs the SEC WEST in the same time period?
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:11 pm to earl keese
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Miles went 5-1 his last six games against SEC teams , beating Florida 3 times in the process.
This statement does not make since to me it appears you are stating CLM played Florida 3 times in his last 6 SEC games. I think you met in the SEC East.
I am not impressed as he only beat South Carolina and Kentucky to make up the other 2 wins and lost to Georgia.
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:18 pm to earl keese
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LSU's record since 2013. 2013 OOC schedule: TCU, UAB, Kent State, & Furman - 4 wins, no losses 2013 SEC East schedule: Georgia & Florida - loss to Georgia and beat Florida 2014 OOC schedule: Wisconsin, Sam Houston State, UL Monroe & New Mexico State - 4 wins, no losses 2014 SEC East schedule: Kentucky & Florida - 2 wins, no losses 2015 OOC schedule: Syracuse, Western Michigan & Western Kentucky - 3 wins, no losses 2015 SEC East schedule: South Carolina & Florida - 2 wins, no losses 2016 OOC schedule: Wisconsin & Jacksonville State - 1 win & 1 loss (Miles coached games) Southern Mississippi - win, ( Orgeron coached games) 2016 SEC East schedule: Missouri & Florida - beat Missouri and lost to Florida (both games coached by Orgeron) 2017 OOC schedule: BYU, Chattanooga, Syracuse & Troy 2017 SEC East schedule: Tennessee & Florida I'll agree that some of those OOC games are are rent-a-wins (all programs schedule similar type opponents) but they isn't anything easy about playing programs like TCU or Wisconsin. As far as "easy SEC east wins", I'll disagree with you. Miles went 5-1 his last six games against SEC teams , beating Florida 3 times in the process. The BS about easy OOC and eastern division opponents is retarded. If you believe Miles padded his record with push overs, I'm sure you'll agree that damn near every program does the exact same thing. Next years LSU (OOC & SEC east) schedule is on par with past seasons schedules. So I'm sure you'll admit that Orgeron is inflating his record as well
Look at your post and if u can't c easy OOC wins you are a retard. UAB, Kent St., Furman, Sam Houston St. UL Monroe, New Mexico St., Syracuse, Western Michigan and Wester Kentucky all in 3 years time. Since 2013 CLM beat these teams from the East-Kentucky, Florida, South Carolina----THATS IT.
He lost to Georgia. You are the RETARD
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:21 pm to earl keese
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The BS about easy OOC and eastern division opponents is retarded
No your BS is retarded anyone that knows college football can simply look at your post and tell ur full of shiiiit.
He beat TCU and split with Wisconsin his only significant OOC opponents since 2013.
So if we leave the SEC west out of the equation for CLM since 2013 the only decent teams he has beat has been TCU, Florida, Kentucky and South Carolina--given Wisconsin was a wash. That's if you want to call Kentucky and South Carolina decent when CLM beat them.
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 4/8/17 at 12:11 am to BillF
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If Rick gets involved in a thread, its going to be a minimum of 12 pages as he actually delves into research to try and win an internet battle of opinions.
Yeah how dare I use actual facts in my side of a discussion.
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Didn't he say he has a degree from Duke? I thought most of those types were involved in more constructive pursuits.
I post from a mobile device.
This thread needs an anchor
This post was edited on 4/8/17 at 12:15 am
Posted on 4/8/17 at 12:20 am to Rickdaddy4188
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actual facts
More like alternative facts
Posted on 4/8/17 at 12:21 am to Rickdaddy4188
Just puzzling that you would spend such effort and time on internet opinions. Few people would.
I notice you didn't quote my post about that Duke degree and why a man of your obvious means spends countless hours arguing about a former LSU coach. Placement office lagging a bit?
I notice you didn't quote my post about that Duke degree and why a man of your obvious means spends countless hours arguing about a former LSU coach. Placement office lagging a bit?
Posted on 4/8/17 at 12:36 am to BillF
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Just puzzling that you would spend such effort and time on internet opinions. Few people would.
I notice you didn't quote my post about that Duke degree and why a man of your obvious means spends countless hours arguing about a former LSU coach. Placement office lagging a bit?
How does any of this alter the facts he provides?
Do these facts frighten you?
Posted on 4/8/17 at 12:47 am to BillF
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Just puzzling that you would spend such effort and time on internet opinions. Few people would.
Effort? It takes 30 seconds to look up stats and facts.
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I notice you didn't quote my post about that Duke degree and why a man of your obvious means spends countless hours arguing about a former LSU coach.
My job allows for me to be able to post throughout the day.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 12:47 am to Paul Allen
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More like alternative facts
So now Miles's win% and his accomplishments at lsu arent facts?
Posted on 4/8/17 at 12:48 am to Champagne
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CLM's record the last few years was inflated with OOC wins and easy SEC east wins.
If you were studious on the subject of SOS you'd realize what an idiotic concept you've brought to tRant.
LSU has been top 5 3 of the last 6 years and fallen outside the top 20 once since '05 with most all organizations that track SOS.
ETA: Sorry Champagne, post was reply to dljtigers and not sure how you got involved. Seems he edited out that statement anyway
This post was edited on 4/8/17 at 1:05 am
Posted on 4/8/17 at 12:49 am to Gray Tiger
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How does any of this alter the facts he provides?
Do these facts frighten you?
No one likes facts that prove their opinion is shite.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 12:55 am to Gray Tiger
What's really evident now is that the people that hated miles are far more obsessed with him than anyone that was/is labeled a Miles defender.
When is the last time any "Pro miles" poster started a thread about Miles?
When is the last time a "pro miles" poster brought miles up in a thread that had nothing to do with Miles?
When is the last time any "Pro miles" poster started a thread about Miles?
When is the last time a "pro miles" poster brought miles up in a thread that had nothing to do with Miles?
This post was edited on 4/8/17 at 12:57 am
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