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Posted on 6/20/24 at 4:42 am to Red Stick Tigress
Les Miles did not bring this action. His family did … FWIW. They want his legacy restored. Unfortunately for Les, he’s living with serious dementia issues right now in Jupiter, Florida.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 7:40 am to Salviati
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Coaches don't know just one scheme and that's the scheme they run. There are always issues about whether a particular scheme fits your personnel, whether you believe the scheme will be most effective for your team, and whether the scheme is the most comfortable for you to coach.
Most coaches know things about nearly every scheme that exists. The offense that LSU ran in 2019 was not a state secret, but every offense has nuances, and every offense has to respond to different defensive looks and responses.
Coaches are constantly learning. Some coaches know some schemes better than other coaches. Leach knew air raid, Johnson knew the flexbone, Kelly knew zone read, etc. That doesn't mean those coaches can't run other schemes, nor does it mean that other coaches can't run those schemes. It's just that some coaches are better at the schemes they use.
Ensminger knew what he wanted to run for 2019, but he also knew that he was not an expert in that scheme. He knew there were details about the offense he wanted to run, such as specific responses to defensive looks, that he needed to learn.
Ensminger started doing more research, and he learned that Brady was a source of that information. Ensminger consulted with Brady about the details of the offense and decided that Brady knew the offense so well that Ensminger talked Orgeron in to hiring Brady. LSU hired the consultant.
that's exactly what I said. I just didn't take 5 paragraphs to do it.
Ensminger could not "run" a 2019 offense, so he went out and got a guy who could.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 7:45 am to BBATiger
quote:Is this true? Sorry to hear this...
Unfortunately for Les, he’s living with serious dementia issues right now in Jupiter, Florida.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 9:17 am to The Mick
So LSU vacated wins to placate the NCAA.
Seems easy enough to crawfish and remove the vacate, and count the wins. Tell the NCAA we had no choice. Win/win
(Fwiw- I just want LSU to get credit for more wins)
Seems easy enough to crawfish and remove the vacate, and count the wins. Tell the NCAA we had no choice. Win/win
(Fwiw- I just want LSU to get credit for more wins)
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 9:20 am
Posted on 6/20/24 at 9:18 am to BBATiger
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Les Miles did not bring this action. His family did … FWIW. They want his legacy restored. Unfortunately for Les, he’s living with serious dementia issues right now in Jupiter, Florida.
How do you know this?
Posted on 6/20/24 at 10:56 am to Salviati
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Miles was an Ohio guy. The Burrow family were Ohio people. Burrow would have absolutely 100% have come to LSU if Miles was head coach.
Easy there Smacker. The amount of shilling some of you do for Miles is impressive. Les did recruit some great talent to the program but QB’s definitely weren’t part of that.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 10:57 am to BBATiger
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Les Miles did not bring this action. His family did … FWIW. They want his legacy restored. Unfortunately for Les, he’s living with serious dementia issues right now in Jupiter, Florida.
If that is true then how would he have capacity to file suit? Wouldn't it have to be by his family on his behalf, or whatever the legal mechanism is in FL for this scenario?
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:31 am to ChatGPT of LA
quote:Yeah it would. Coaches can't pay players. Especially from their wife's account.
Wade did himself in....whatever happened after that was a result of his DIRECT actions. Sucks, because today it wouldn't be a thing.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:32 am to Bring Da Wood
quote:Easy there Ed. Happy for 2019, but happy you're gone too.
Easy there Smacker. The amount of shilling some of you do for Miles is impressive. Les did recruit some great talent to the program but QB’s definitely weren’t part of that.
When Burrow came down to visit LSU, his whole family came with him. Burrow's father Jimmy knew Busch and Ensminger. Burrow's brother Dan also came with him. His whole family was telling Joe to go to LSU. Jimmy and Dan were particularly convincing in getting Burrow to go to LSU.
When you consider that his father, brother, and the rest of his family wanted him to go to LSU, and when you consider that the alternative was Cincinnati, there can be no doubt that Burrow was coming to LSU regardless of the head coach.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:35 am to Havoc
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If that is true then how would he have capacity to file suit? Wouldn't it have to be by his family on his behalf, or whatever the legal mechanism is in FL for this scenario?
He filed on his own behalf according the lawsuit caption. If he has dementia to the extent that he doesn't have capacity, then the defendants could attack that. The poster says he has "serious dementia issues". Something doesn't fit.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:37 am to RobbBobb
quote:Tell me you don't know what legacy means without saying I don't know what legacy means.
What legacy?
Clown.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:47 am to Salviati
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When Burrow came down to visit LSU, his whole family came with him. Burrow's father Jimmy knew Busch and Ensminger. Burrow's brother Dan also came with him. His whole family was telling Joe to go to LSU. Jimmy and Dan were particularly convincing in getting Burrow to go to LSU.
When you consider that his father, brother, and the rest of his family wanted him to go to LSU, and when you consider that the alternative was Cincinnati, there can be no doubt that Burrow was coming to LSU regardless of the head coach.
I guess if we ignore the fact that Bill Busch never worked for Les Miles, and we ignore the fact that Ensminger was never likely to be an OC under Miles, and we pretend that Burrow & his family would have been just as excited to come play for Cam Cameron.. then sure, we can pretend Burrow would have been here no matter what.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:58 am to lostinbr
quote:Ok, good.
I guess if we ignore the fact that Bill Busch never worked for Les Miles, and we ignore the fact that Ensminger was never likely to be an OC under Miles, and we pretend that Burrow & his family would have been just as excited to come play for Cam Cameron.. then sure, we can pretend Burrow would have been here no matter what.
I'm glad you agree.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:09 pm to Salviati
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When Burrow came down to visit LSU, his whole family came with him. Burrow's father Jimmy knew Busch and Ensminger. Burrow's brother Dan also came with him. His whole family was telling Joe to go to LSU. Jimmy and Dan were particularly convincing in getting Burrow to go to LSU.
They wanted him to go to Nebraska. Jimmy played and coached at Nebraska. Bill Busch (a Nebraska guy) was a GA and assistant coach at Nebraska when Jimmy coached there. Bill Busch coached Joe's brothers Jamie and Dan at Nebraska.
THREE separate Husker head coaches turned Joe Burrow down: Bo Pelini and Mike Riley when Joe was in high school, and Scott Frost when Joe wanted to leave Ohio State. Bill Busch called Jimmy and got Joe to Baton Rouge.
Epic fail by the Cornhuskers, and all three of those clown head coaches are out of coaching today. Bill Busch retired in Nebraska and has an outstanding reputation.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:32 pm to RobbBobb
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importance of his legacy
Lulz
What legacy?
* He had the #1 NFL drafted QB, plus the BCS MVP QB as a result of Saban and Jimbo. The year they were both gone from LSU, Miles dropped to 5 losses. Both of those coaches also produced NCAA champs and Heisman QBs elsewhere
* He then went to a run first-offense that floundered until he was forced to start a QB due to his starters arrest. That team then went undefeated, until Miles re-inserted the arrested QB. LSU then became the only team in the championship game to score ZERO points
* LSU has produced 2 Heisman QBs since his departure
* They year he was fired, he hadnt won a single game at Kansas. The new coach had them ranked with 9 wins within 3 seasons
* At OK St his best season was 9 wins, and was never ranked. His replacement has seasons of 9, 9, 11, 12, 10, 10, 10, 10, 12, and 10 wins, and ranked in the Top 25 eleven times.
Miles is and was a clown
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:39 pm to Salviati
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It's somewhere between 99.9% true and 100% true. Burrow was making a choice between Cincinnati and LSU. The choice there is obvious. But the thing that made the choice crystal clear was Bill Busch. Orgeron had zero to do with the choice made by Burrow. Yes, Orgeron pursued Burrow, and yes Burrow thanked Orgeron in his Heisman speech. However, the same thing would have happened regardless of who was the head coach at LSU. Whomever that head coach was would have pursued Burrow, and Burrow would have thanked that head coach in his Heisman speech. Miles was an Ohio guy. The Burrow family were Ohio people. Burrow would have absolutely 100% have come to LSU if Miles was head coach.
It is obvious now that Orgeron had jack shite to do with 2019 but clap his hands. He was the all time lottery winner dumbass in the right place at the right time. That team would have been undefeated national champions with the HC position vacated and with Ensminger and Aranda in charge.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:26 pm to The Mick
Pulling Miles here. LSU handled this poorly.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:41 pm to The Mick
Has anyone pointed out that one of his lawyers went to Alabama Law? 
Christopher Neff
Christopher Neff
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 4:39 pm to The Mick
Goddamn can't stand to listen to some of you dumb frick retards trash Les Miles, its like ya'll just picked up LSU Football at Nick Saban after he won the Natty. We had 10 win seasons with Les and 2 trips to the Natty and didnt get caught up in a Coaching Carousel for over 10 years like other programs have (UT or USC for example). Just a God awful fanbase, can't wait for you turds to pay hand over fist to fly to Vegas and show the world how trashy ya'll are when you're trashing Brian Kelly.
Dude faded out on a bad note. Give him his fricking wins. Joe Pa got his wins back.
Dude faded out on a bad note. Give him his fricking wins. Joe Pa got his wins back.
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