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re: Kelvin Joseph enters transfer portal
Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:03 pm to Goldrush25
Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:03 pm to Goldrush25
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That's not really how kids think.
A lot of elite athletes have an entitlement issue, you know because grown men make up messaging boards that rant and rave about how awesome they are, and people all around them that want something from them tell them how awesome they are.
If you're young that can give you the feeling that you can get away with anything. Some get lost in the sauce so to speak. It takes a special quality not to get sidetracked.
Agree with all of this except the last sentence. Even most of the entitled ones get their act together. But being both entitled and an idiot results in a waste of talent.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:06 pm to Tiger Ree
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So yeah, he is losing one, possibly two players that would have played this year. Eaux really has his work cut out for him. He has to decide whether to replace K. Joseph with Derek or Mr Stingley or he may just go with Derek Stingley. Tough, tough choice.
Agreed. There is never a scenario where it's beneficial to have talented depth at a position, or so much talent that even your three or four deep defensive backfield is made up of quality players.
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This is the ONLY player from the 2018 class that is leaving that had actually been on the field for more than a few plays.
You say this to dismiss transfers, then bring up Chris Curry, Micah Baskerville and Chasen Hines.
Let's also not forget that Lewis and Traore were upper class players who are Seniors this season and have no possibility of contributing in 2020 or 2021.
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Not to mention other possibles to play a LOT if not start:
Kardell
Maurice Hampton
Donte Starks
Devonta Lee (at safety more than WR)
Anthony Bradford
Raydar
Jay Ward
Kendall McCallum
Soni Fonua
If these guys are starting or playing a lot, what does that say about the incoming talent?
Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:08 pm to Tiger Ree
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Well one class was top 5 and the other was top 15.
I thought you were all about the adjusted recruiting rankings? How high would LSU's 2018 class have been ranked if you took out the transfer players?
Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:08 pm to Damone
Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:13 pm to Byrdybyrd05
So, do you guys trash his dad now?
Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:13 pm to Byrdybyrd05
His pops on his arse finally.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:13 pm to Byrdybyrd05
O laid down the law and Like most youngsters Kelvin was going to run from problem. Really not sure how this ends. Been a crazy day!
Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:13 pm to Teyovesante45
Moss transferred from NC State before the 2017 season and sat out a year due to transfer rules. At the time, LSU had Moreau, Jacory Washington, Jamal Pettigrew, and Aaron Moffit. That is 4 scholarship TE's, with Moss being the 5th.
In what world is 4 scholarship TE's not enough that you are in need of a TE?
Don't go back and change your argument now. You said LSU needed a TE when LSU used a scholarship on him.
In what world is 4 scholarship TE's not enough that you are in need of a TE?
Don't go back and change your argument now. You said LSU needed a TE when LSU used a scholarship on him.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:16 pm to EXPLAYER
Lol, thanks for downvote. Go read and see who mentioned his issues from concert. Don’t be so butt hurt. Love ya!
Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:22 pm to Damone
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Agreed. There is never a scenario where it's beneficial to have talented depth at a position, or so much talent that even your three or four deep defensive backfield is made up of quality players.
Losing two players who saw any playing time in an offseason is something to be happy about not miserable.
Only two players of six who are leaving saw the field at all last year. That is good. And they are not juniors or seniors that have been with the team 3 or 4 years.
LSU retaining EVERY DRAFT ELIGIBLE JUNIOR except for Greedy and Ed Alexander was the big win for LSU this offseason. It more than overcomes two freshmen (of which only one played) to transfer.
You continue crying about the 2018 recruiting class.
I will just keep laughing at you while I continue to smile about the players/starters from the 2018 class, the fact that only two eligible players declared for the draft this year, the bad-arse 2019 class that is already on campus or showing up and the #2 class in the nation for 2020 as of right now with the potential for even MORE exceptional players from all over the country.
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Let's also not forget that Lewis and Traore were upper class players who are Seniors this season and have no possibility of contributing in 2020 or 2021.
Yeah college football is like that. Don't cry about them leaving be happy they were here.
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If these guys are starting or playing a lot, what does that say about the incoming talent?
They are the incoming talent are they not? It says they are very good football players. They will probably re-show the spring game in case you missed Stingley and Ika.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:23 pm to Goldrush25
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That said, he has his work cut out for him for next year when this 2018 class is supposed to take on a more prominent role.
Where the transfer portal has been a headache, the new RS rule has helped. We had a lot of good players keep that extra year in 2018 so the cupboard won't be bare in 2020.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:25 pm to Tiger Ree
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Losing two players who saw any playing time in an offseason is something to be happy about not miserable.
Then why do all 3 of your posts in here read like you are very unhappy?
Edit: You forgot Devin White. Although to be fair if White came back I’d have to wonder if he would be making the decision that is in his best interests.
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:28 pm to Tiger Ree
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Losing two players who saw any playing time in an offseason is something to be happy about not miserable.
I don't understand this, it's a good thing to lose players who saw playing time?
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the fact that only two eligible players declared for the draft this year, the bad-arse 2019 class that is already on campus or showing up and the #2 class in the nation for 2020 as of right now with the potential for even MORE exceptional players from all over the country.
None of these have anything whatsoever to do with the 2018 class. Based on your reasoning, you have to be happy with each class simply because they existed.
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Yeah college football is like that. Don't cry about them leaving be happy they were here.
Well in the larger context of recruiting and contribution, two players who play two years is not as good as a 3-4 year contributor and just above you were talking about how crucial it was to keep guys around for their third and fourth years rather than entering the draft.
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They are the incoming talent are they not? It says they are very good football players. They will probably re-show the spring game in case you missed Stingley and Ika.
Again, this has nothing whatsoever to do with the 2018 class, but even if it did, should we all be happy if one of O's entire classes was passed up by a subsequent class?
Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:29 pm to Tiger Ree
Ree I think you’re missing the point. No one is worried about the 2018 class affecting the 2019 season. People are worried that we will have a lack of depth and a young team in 2020 and 2021.
Basically what should be the junior or senior class will be almost nonexistent.
Basically what should be the junior or senior class will be almost nonexistent.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:31 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
I'm grasping for any explanation as to why it's bad to have MORE talent on a football team as opposed to less.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:31 pm to Tiger Ree
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Though 2019 will probably have more starters than the 2018 class:
That's not good you know.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:32 pm to Damone
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I thought you were all about the adjusted recruiting rankings? How high would LSU's 2018 class have been ranked if you took out the transfer players?
They would drop three spots to #18. With less commits - 17 than anyone ahead of them except for Clemson.
This is with Kelvin Joseph still included in the class since his dad has said he is not going anywhere.
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:33 pm to Damone
Yeah that particular argument is straw man at best.
I think he’s trying to say that if players good enough to play last year are leaving this year then it means our team is better.
It’s not really a good argument cuz everyone knows that $5 is worth more than $1 but having both equals $6 which is the highest value. Probably a dumb example but it’s what I got
I think he’s trying to say that if players good enough to play last year are leaving this year then it means our team is better.
It’s not really a good argument cuz everyone knows that $5 is worth more than $1 but having both equals $6 which is the highest value. Probably a dumb example but it’s what I got
Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:35 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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Basically what should be the junior or senior class will be almost nonexistent.
That's what the 2018 offense had to contend with after all of the transfers and busts from the 2015 and 2016 classes.
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 2:39 pm
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