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re: Jordan Rodgers says Joe Brady best new young "playcaller"

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Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:40 am to
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They're up in the press box. Steve is calling the plays, but you know what? Joe has the next play ready for him. If he needs Joe, Joe is going to give it to him."


This is a fairly common arrangement that is not unique to LSU. Nobody seriously considers the guy that has the next play ready the play caller.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:42 am to
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This is a fairly common arrangement that is not unique to LSU. Nobody seriously considersthe guy that has the next play ready the play caller.


Correct.

Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12841 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:43 am to
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Ha Ha Ha!!! ALWAYS been the low man on the totem pole. Ha Ha Ha!!! 
Is a GA not the entry level position on a college coaching staff?

Is a general offensive assistant not an entry level NFL coaching position?

Yes he moved quickly, but he quickly went from entry level position to entry level position.

And the point of this thread is to talk about how Joe is a great young play caller, but in fact he has never called plays before. No article you link can take away from that.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:46 am to
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OK. So it's cool if you make all kinds of guesses about Brady's role and how it will evolve over the course of the season but when I make a guess about his role based on the words of the head coach it's "nitpicking". Got it


He’s the most intellectually dishonest poster on this site. Everyone who’s dealt with him knows it. It’s pretty pathetic.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:55 am to
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He’s the most intellectually dishonest poster on this site. Everyone who’s dealt with him knows it. It’s pretty pathetic.


Our little diaper drive by buddy...

Brady will be a playcaller. O and E have said so

Now my guess is he will be the primary at some point of the season.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22972 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:59 am to
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Brady will be a playcaller. O and E have said so


Neither have said that. Both have said that Brady will make suggestions and Ensminger can either accept his suggestion or call another play.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:01 am to
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Brady will be a playcaller. O and E have said so


You either call the plays or you don't. Both O and Ensminger have said that Brady can make suggestions and Ensminger can listen or do his own thing. I don't consider that "calling plays" but maybe you do. This is a stupid argument.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:03 am to
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Brady will be a playcaller. O and E have said so



Neither of them have said that. You're just lying at this point.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:08 am to
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Our little diaper drive by buddy...


I was posting in this thread before you dropped in and started making shite up.

quote:

Brady will be a playcaller. O and E have said so


No, they haven’t.

quote:

Now my guess is he will be the primary at some point of the season.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:11 am to
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Neither of them have said that. You're just lying at this point.


Nope. Youre just hung up on your silly semantics. Steve is the OC, he calls the plays from the booth to the field. That doesn't mean he's the sole decision maker.

Brady will decide what plays to run at specific times.

Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:11 am to
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Neither have said that. Both have said that Brady will make suggestions and Ensminger can either accept his suggestion or call another play.


This seems like one of those "splitting hairs" arguments.

If Joe recommends a play and Steve accepts it, relays the play to the field and it is run, DID Joe indeed call that play?

Or did Steve actually call the play and just accepted Joe's recommendation to run it?

In the latter case, is the act of calling a play just the process of getting the play to the field?
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16712 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:12 am to
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Brady will be a playcaller. O and E have said so Neither of them have said that. You're just lying at this point


Paraphrasing, but what I remember from the interview was that Brady would have the next play call ready to go for SE. I think there is some room for interpretation as to what that means. I also believe it was stated SE is the play caller so again it's a peculiar situation.

Honestly I don't know how much influence offensive assistants in other programs have on playcalling so I can't comment on how unusual this is or isn't.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:13 am to
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In the latter case, is the act of calling a play just the process of getting the play to the field?


The act of calling the play is making the decision on what to run. Whether Ensminger uses a recommended play or uses one he chooses himself, he's making the decision.

He's the play caller.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:13 am to
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Nope. Youre just hung up on your silly semantics. Steve is the OC, he calls the plays from the booth to the field.



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That doesn't mean he's the sole decision maker.


.....that's exactly what it means.

Just take the L on this one and move on.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:14 am to
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.....that's exactly what it means.


Yep.
quote:

Just take the L on this one and move on.


You know that won't happen
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:14 am to
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I remember from the interview was that Brady would have the next play call ready to go for SE.


This is correct.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:14 am to
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Paraphrasing, but what I remember from the interview was that Brady would have the next play call ready to go for SE. I think there is some room for interpretation as to what that means. I also believe it was stated SE is the play caller so again it's a peculiar situation.

Honestly I don't know how much influence offensive assistants in other programs have on playcalling so I can't comment on how unusual this is or isn't.


How about we just go with what Orgeron said:

quote:

“Steve’s going to call the plays,” Coach O said. “Joe is going to have the next play ready. If Steve wants it, he takes it. If he wants to call his own play, he’ll call his own play. I think that’s going to be a big plus for us.”


Brady has absolutely no control over what does or does not get called.
This post was edited on 8/1/19 at 11:17 am
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16712 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:17 am to
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How about we just go with what Orgeron said: quote:“Steve’s going to call the plays,” Coach O said. “Joe is going to have the next play ready. If Steve wants it, he takes it. If he wants to call his own play, he’ll call his own play. I think that’s going to be a big plus for us.”

I'm glad you found the quote, but isn't that pretty much what I said?
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
20151 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:17 am to
has Brady even called a single play yet, anywhere?

Nice hire, but let's pump the brakes until we see something on the field, particularly after week 2.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 11:18 am to
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Honestly I don't know how much influence offensive assistants in other programs have on playcalling so I can't comment on how unusual this is or isn't.


Brady is much more familiar with the type of offense we are installing than Ensminger, though we will still run some aspects of a traditional offense at times.

It will be a cooperative endeavor. Joe is the OC in waiting, his role will grow as the season progresses.
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