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re: Joe Sloan & Nuss have been together for 4 years

Posted on 9/14/25 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by Sponge
Member since Nov 2018
4606 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 2:47 pm to
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Most annoying moment last night: after the long pass play to Sharp, rather than lining up and hitting the D in the mouth while they’re on their heels, he dials up a quick throw to the perimeter for a loss

2nd and 2 after Caleb Banks hobbles off the field.

Calls back to back passes and we punt.
Posted by That LSU Guy
Ponte Vedra Beach
Member since Jul 2008
15192 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 2:48 pm to
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Let him play his style and live with the results. We now have a D that can keep us in games.


frick NO!

Did you see the horrible INT he threw last night? That's him being a gunslinger.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16533 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 3:25 pm to
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frick NO!

Did you see the horrible INT he threw last night? That's him being a gunslinger.

No it's not. That's a QB that's a QB being hesitant and not decisive off the snap.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55427 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 4:05 pm to
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2nd and 2 after Caleb Banks hobbles off the field.

Calls back to back passes and we punt.


This is why this championship caliber team won’t win one.

One of many examples of how terrible this guy is.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66509 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 4:06 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/14/25 at 4:07 pm
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32985 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 4:21 pm to
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Yea he’s not good. I struggle to find a lifeline on this staff, too. Alex Adkins has experience


That comment doesn’t really add up. Atkins was Norvell’s fall guy for 24, but their struggles last year fell as much on Norvell’s consistently mediocre HS recruiting and absolute dependence on the portal. He went bust on a portal class, picked a QB who wasn’t good enough and was a terrible fit in their offense, and it blew up in his face.

Atkins managed a really good offense for a team that had an undefeated season in 2023 with a QB who was not NFL material. He was a freak QB injury away from a playoff birth. He should be able to handle calling plays here if BK really wants to make a move. This isn’t the same situation as we had with House in 2023.

If we look back a few years, Blake Baker was Manny Diaz’s fall guy for Miami’s terrible 2020 defense. You can’t just give up on a guy when they get fired in that kind of circumstance. I would say Baker bounced back pretty well.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32985 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 4:25 pm to
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Im talking more about the run game adjustments in the second half. Lot of motion to set up the counter, duo etc


All of that misdirection you mention that worked vs Clemson has been missing for the last two weeks. I get working on different things last week vs Tech, but there’s just no reason for it all to disappear for our SEC opener when what we were doing was obviously not working.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29643 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 4:30 pm to
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think the volume of weapons we have plus the speed of the game plus Nuss being a more traditional QB muddles it for him and he never allows himself to find a rhythm.

Do they tho?

The receivers outside of Anderson haven’t been able to get separation. Take a closer look.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288422 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 4:31 pm to
Atkins was just a proxy OC for Norvell, who ran the offense. He doesn’t have clout as an OC. That’s why he’s a TE coach

Furthermore he’s done nothing to advance LSU’s run game. My comment is accurate. I’m not selling him short.
Posted by Folsom
Folsom
Member since Mar 2006
3567 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 4:36 pm to
“ We have a terrible OC and OL line coach. Those two things combined can hamstring any talented offense.”

If this is true, then it’s demoralizing because our head coach doesn’t have a clue.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288422 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 4:48 pm to
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The receivers outside of Anderson haven’t been able to get separation. Take a closer look.


I see we are running back the same excuses you made last year huh
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
23227 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 4:50 pm to
The run plays between the tackles are horrific....and they have been the same for 4 years....they DO NOT WORK!
Posted by p226
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2016
2126 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 4:51 pm to
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That’s where LSU is most likely to have success, but also where Nuss is most likely to throw the game away.


I think that’s the whole problem right there. I think CBK is risk averse. His first priority on offense is to protect the football.

If that means ripping out half the playbook, and limiting the offense, so be it.

Hell, he might be right. I don’t really know that if he let Nuss go with some more risky passing that he wouldn’t have thrown 5 INT’s last night.

He kinda said as much last night. “Coach to win the game. You people may not like it…”.

But, he’s gotta field a better team than he has since he got here.

He’s supposed have this team in the conversation for Natty’s?


Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29643 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 4:52 pm to
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see we are running back the same excuses you made last year huh

They threw for 4000+ yards last season. That was not the situation.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288422 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 4:58 pm to
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They threw for 4000+ yards last season. That was not the situation.


4000 meaningless & empty yards. No
One judges a QB by yards lol. Well, no one smart.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32985 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 5:01 pm to
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Atkins was just a proxy OC for Norvell, who ran the offense. He doesn’t have clout as an OC. That’s why he’s a TE coach


That’s 100% wrong. Their offense, especially their run game, changed quite a bit when he arrived at FSU. That’s well documented. Norvell obviously dictates a lot there, but to act like Atkins had no influence whatsoever is silly.

When any coordinator gets fired, fall guy or not, they either step down in level to remain a coordinator or they become a position coach. Everyone know this.

As for our run game, I’ll put more on him when I see more of his concepts than we are actually running. There were obvious fingerprints on the Clemson game plan, but I didn’t see shite that looked like his run game style last night.
This post was edited on 9/14/25 at 5:03 pm
Posted by Kocin
Pearland Texas
Member since Feb 2017
772 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 5:06 pm to
Yep
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29643 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 5:09 pm to
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4000 meaningless & empty yards. No One judges a QB by yards lol. Well, no one smart.

You’re saying that yards don’t matter to a QB when many were beyond 20+. Yes he struggled when he lost Delli and Frazier especially (neither played vs UF last season). The difference is to get to 4000 you had to put the ball in the air and receivers had to get open. There wasn’t this dunk and dunk. He averaged 12 yards /completion more than adequate.
Posted by Jojodaddy
Member since Dec 2015
531 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 5:12 pm to
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I can’t figure out what there trying to do.


That makes two of us. Like, I couldn’t describe the offensive philosophy in a way that doesn’t sound like I’m making shite up and talking in circles.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288422 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 5:13 pm to
None of his efficiency metrics were good. They were all average to below. Including downfield metrics and everything in between. He racked up yards against bad teams and in negative game flow situations. End of thread
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