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re: Jimbo: A True Saban Clone

Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:22 am to
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54547 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:22 am to
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I think what the majority on here are refusing to see is just how far Miles let this program slip
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
21261 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:23 am to
Right?!?

Their business would fail.

But, what’s most discouraging, is Alleva hired that way.
People don’t get we’re just interested in the business (program) succeeding.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14409 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:24 am to
His success at FSU was comparable to Miles at LSU.

Is he a bit of a douche like Saban? Absolutely.

Is he happy with the resources at A&M? Yep. 75 million of them.

Jimbo may tear it up at A&M, but he better win early and often because he was paid for instant and sustainable elite production. A&M will turn on him quick if they don't get the bang for the buck.

That being said, if he does make A&M a regular contender he is worth every dime.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:32 am to
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instant and sustainable elite production.

don't ever see that happening at aTm, their boosters are 100x the meddlers that ours are
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66441 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:33 am to
We gave him a raise after the 2003 season

Because he did something

I cant Remember what but it was worth a raise
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6922 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:35 am to
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His success at FSU was comparable to Miles at LSU.

Their tenures are almost exactly the same. Both had 2-3 year spurts where they had NFL players at almost every position on both sides of the ball, and turned that into conference championships and NC wins/playoff appearances. Outside of those runs, the rest of the seasons were 3+ losses, with Jimbo having an extra win each year due to the absolute shitty bottom of the ACC. Jimbo never won the ACC without Jameis, and only won the division once without him as well.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40788 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:40 am to
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"I never had any intentions of leaving Florida State," Fisher said. "After (A&M athletic director Scott Woodward) contacted me, and I saw his vision and researched the resources at A&M, it was a no-brainer. There was an opportunity and a challenge here that I just couldn’t pass up."


I believe that these are two completely different situations. LSU bought into Saban/Emmert's vision for LSU football/athletics. They went all in. Gave Saban whatever he wanted. Saban eventually wanted the NFL. To my knowledge Fisher didn't want the NFL and didn't have that lingering over his head. Maybe I was under a rock or something. I just don't remember it.

But Fisher had known grievances with the FSU administration over resources, and upgrades to facilities. They had to keep pace with the rest of the country in regards to facilities for athletes. FSU wasn't buying in, or they were coming really cheap. So it was a no brainer, after all that friction, that he would go to aTm, especially after the tens of millions they are going all in on stadium upgrades and facilities. What coach wouldn't go for that?
Posted by TBoy@LSU
Member since Sep 2012
5482 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:50 am to
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so far his success has come thru Winston.


So was Sumlin w/ Manziel and Chizik w/ Cam. Living proof that a dynamic QB can make a coach in college football.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:19 am to
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Jimbo: A True Saban Clone

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58649 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:36 am to
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Again, the pathetic losers in our fanbase that try to knock a coach with the resume of Jimbo Fisher, or Les Miles for that matter, while at the same time trying to build up Ed fricking Orgeron are what makes this fanbase comic relief for the whole country to see


This needs to be repeated.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10898 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:36 am to
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Get fricked. We’re a better program than this.
LSU will never be better than it is now until Aramark Alleva is removed.

It has to happen.

The man is about as negligent and dysfunctional as it gets.

Scary thought as to the "Process" in place that's keeping him employed at LSU.
Posted by TigerDM
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1602 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:39 am to
Take away his two years with Winston and his record wasn’t much better
than Sumlin in a much weaker conference.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58649 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:40 am to
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LSU will never be better than it is now until Aramark Alleva is removed.

It has to happen.

The man is about as negligent and dysfunctional as it gets.

Scary thought as to the "Process" in place that's keeping him employed at LSU.


This is true. While the focus of LSU's success in the early 2000s is on Saban, people forget about the administrative process the allowed for that success. Unfortunately, we now have Alleva, an inept overall administration, and some low I.Q. backwoods baws that are cheering for one of their own. We're a joke right now.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12457 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:42 am to
Jimbo is no Saban. That must be a joke. Jimbo will get run out of town when they start losing. And that won't take long.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58117 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:47 am to
Yep. I can’t wait to see that fan base turn against him after he loses to Clemson, Auburn, LSU, and Alabama this year
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:57 am to
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Yes, who cares? We're going to kick the crap out of aTm for years to come.



Yeah keep thinking that.

This year will be closer than you think. We keep Orgeron, they'll beat us next year.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14496 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:14 am to
$$$
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:16 am to
2017: 5 wins 6 losses.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15892 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:26 am to
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Jimbo never won the ACC without Jameis

False.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29857 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:40 am to
Jimbo is about to find out what playing in the SEC west is all about
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