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Jay’s Moves Look Much Better Now?

Posted on 4/30/23 at 12:39 am
Posted by FreeState
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Posted on 4/30/23 at 12:39 am
Ack can go again tomorrow, right? Others, too?
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70882 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 12:42 am to
It still doesn't make sense that Cooper faced more hitters than Ack.

There is no defending how the 8th was handled, Hurd pitching the best 5 outs of his life bailed us out.
Posted by FreeState
Member since Jun 2012
3171 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 12:57 am to
Managing a pitching staff, especially a bull pen, has to be a nightmare for a coach if you don't have the 1998 Yankees.

Sometimes, you 'waste' an arm for whatever reason.

Situational.

The outcome tonight makes Jay look like he knew what he was doing.

Like Earl Weaver said, a 3 run homer in the 8th always helps.


Had we lost, tar and feathers.
This post was edited on 4/30/23 at 12:58 am
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70882 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 1:00 am to
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Situational.



Right and he fricked up the situation by having Ack face less lefties than Cooper.
Posted by SwampRocket
Houston, Texas
Member since Dec 2012
634 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 1:12 am to
Just win baby win
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
2843 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 2:02 am to
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It still doesn't make sense that Cooper faced more hitters than Ack. There is no defending how the 8th was handled, Hurd pitching the best 5 outs of his life bailed us out.


The only part of this I disagree with is the notion that Johnson got lucky with Hurd. He pitched well midweek and was supposed to be this good, but hasn’t been able to find control of his pitches. It’s the best he’s pitched in an SEC game, but far from the best he’s pitched in his life. It’s not even his best outing this season. That would be the Texas game. He and Wes Johnson obviously saw something on Tuesday that gave them confidence they could rely on him this weekend. That’s not luck.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5898 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 2:53 am to
What a fantastic win that was. I couldn't be more proud of the guys for fighting back, and of Coleman, Money and Hurd for their performances.

The pitching decisions in the 8th, however, were just mind boggling. As soon as he took Ack out after one batter, I said "what happens if Guidry doesn't have it today". That is a lot to put on a freshman, when you didn't absolutely have to go to him that early. But then to only let him face two batters, to go to a guy who has struggled all year, had me in disbelief.

Then he pinch runs in the bottom of the inning, replacing a catcher with a catcher, and the bunt that followed saw the runner get thrown out on a play where someone like Stevenson might have been safe. After all of that, the Tigers prevailed, and that's what counts. I have a lot of questions for what coach was doing in the 8th.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
58741 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 4:19 am to
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Then he pinch runs in the bottom of the inning, replacing a catcher with a catcher,


That was my call, but I was sitting behind home plate.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5898 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 4:39 am to
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That was my call, but I was sitting behind home plate.


I'm not sure if you're telling me a joke, or that you agree with me while having sat behind home plate.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77394 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 5:40 am to
No, the decisions in the 8th were pretty bad regardless of result
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14663 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 8:03 am to
A good outcome doesn't make a bad decision into a good one.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260434 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 8:06 am to
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Managing a pitching staff, especially a bull pen, has to be a nightmare for a coach if you don't have the 1998 Yankees.


Nah, all these dudes here were in the dugout and know exactly what we had and why those decisions were made. These guys know baseball and understand there are no nuances at all.

They all say they were bad decisions, and of course we lost so they are right.

Fire Jay, Hire Rantards.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19063 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 8:08 am to
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There is no defending how the 8th was handled,


We gave up one run with a two run lead. I think that defends itself pretty well. You, I, and nobody else knows how the game unfolds IF we did what you want.

People on here bitch that JJ doesnt go for the sweep. He still has pitchers left for today...

This post was edited on 4/30/23 at 8:09 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260434 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 8:15 am to
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We gave up one run with a two run lead. I think that defends itself pretty well.


Bingo. It just wasn't done the way they wanted it done.

They have absolutely no clue what the situation was with each of these pitchers.
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
9716 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 8:19 am to
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all these dudes here were in the dugout and know exactly what we had and why those decisions were made. These guys know baseball



It's literally funny. I kid you not.
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
5591 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 8:21 am to
It worked out well, that was not done by intention.
Guidry was supposed to get the last 5 outs.
No one's arm got really got taxed so I would assume everyone is good to go tomorrow if needed except Skenes, Herring,Floyd and Coleman. Which is where we were last weekend on Sunday.
Let's go fly a W today
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
5752 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 8:41 am to
Fortunately, we have Skenes as our Friday starter...after that, there's a huge dropoff.
Floyd has the stuff but can't seem to find consistency from week to week. Little is not the definitive arm that I thought he would be, at least he hasn't shown it from week to week. Hurd was pretty good last night but his outings have been pretty disappointing up till now.
I see promise in Coleman, Herring, Ackenhausen & Edwards. Still holding my breath on Riley Cooper and now, Guidry.
Dutton, Collins & sometimes, Money are good for a few innings.
Yes, we're still #1 in the country and still winning, but it seems that most every week we face pitchers who are far superior to our staff. It's our bats that we have come to rely on to reach the success we have enjoyed thus far.
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
14107 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 8:43 am to
We won, so coach did a good job.
If we sweep, he did a great job.

No coach is going to make the right decision every time. Besides, we can’t truly know if any of the decisions are bad because we will never know the result of going the other way. We don’t play this thing in a laboratory.

Enjoy the win and having the #1 team in America.
Posted by Gavin Elster
Member since Mar 2020
2543 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 8:45 am to
I mean, it worked out but that was bizarre bringing in a guy to face one batter. It didn’t help that the next guy almost blew the game. But, this team can smash the ball so all’s well that ends well.
Posted by TDTiger225
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2019
1388 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 9:00 am to
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It worked out well, that was not done by intention
WTF do you guys come from? It worked out well and it absoluty was intentional. Did it go exactly according to his plan? No. Did every move he make work out exactly as he intended? Obviously not. But he had a result he was trying to achieve and he made adjustments along the way. It seems to me he got was he was looking for.

I'm not saying every move he made was 3D chess. Maybe pulling Ack while he was still confident and wanting more was important goal. Maybe he needed to throw something to Milazzo in that moment. Maybe he's trying to build a team that adapts to whatever he asks them to do with confidence. Maybe he wanted to give everyone in the pen to have just enough throws to earn more playing time today. There are lots of goals to accomplish along with winning every game.

Dude built the #1 team in his second year at a program that was heading in the wrong direction when he took over. I'm not saying he's perfect, but we're lucky that he has more confidence in himself, his coaching staff, and his roster than the baseball experts here on tRant.

ETA: And although he's trying to win every game, there's no doubt that building this team for Omaha goes into every decision he makes as well.
This post was edited on 4/30/23 at 9:10 am
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