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Posted on 9/19/22 at 10:46 am to LSBoosie
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It really showed on that last touchdown drive. He threw two back shoulder passes out of bounds, giving the receiver no chance to catch it. Then on the 4th down threw that ball to Nabers, keeping it in bounds, and he made a play. He needs to trust his receivers more, especially when the defender isn't looking.
Kelly kept yelling at him to "Just fricking throw it up!".
Posted on 9/19/22 at 10:47 am to OU812ME2
It’s not a problem it’s a positive. What you’re describing is the reason he’s playing over Nuss.
The last thing we need is a QB trying to be Joe Burrow without actually having the acumen to do so.
The last thing we need is a QB trying to be Joe Burrow without actually having the acumen to do so.
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 10:48 am
Posted on 9/19/22 at 10:47 am to BlackAngus
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Nabers and Thomas are too good at 50/50 to never get the opportunity.
He threw quite a few 50/50 balls. Including the 4th down to Nabers. He threw a couple to Boutte as well. One was just way overthrown.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 10:49 am to TheFlyingTiger
quote:Look up the definitions of RPO and zone read on your Google machine, Flying Man.
Also, some of these zone reads need to be RPO's.
RPO isn't about the QB running.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 10:51 am to OU812ME2
He's also learning to trust his receivers. Keep in mind that outside of his freshmen year, he hasn't had great playmakers around him.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 10:56 am to Damathe
[quote]RPO isn't about the QB running. [/quote
Fully aware.
...with a running qb, it can be one of your now 3 options.
(R)Hand off, throw (P), or keep it and run yourself(also R).
Fully aware.
...with a running qb, it can be one of your now 3 options.
(R)Hand off, throw (P), or keep it and run yourself(also R).
Posted on 9/19/22 at 10:59 am to OU812ME2
I think he has a "must get Boutte the ball" problem as well. He is trying way too hard to force plays to Kayshon that he is leaving a lot of plays on the field.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:02 am to OU812ME2
It's my guess that if he has 2 interceptions that this place would be frying him....and don't you really think he's being coached to his strengths.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:07 am to geauxtigers33
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He is completing almost 70 percent of his passes (
Because he is check down charlie. We are 120th in passing yards per completion. We are 105th in passing yards per attempt. This notion that he is accurate because of his completion % is bullshite.
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 11:11 am
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:20 am to Rickdaddy4188
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This notion that he is accurate because of his completion % is bullshite.
There's a difference in being accurate and precise, he's just not precise. His solid accuracy but lack of precision is causing receivers to catch the ball but not always be able to do much with it after that.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:24 am to OU812ME2
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Jayden Daniels has a 'Can't make an interception' problem
I can think of a lot worse problems to have than this.
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 11:24 am
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:27 am to slimySand
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There's a difference in being accurate and precise, he's just not precise. His solid accuracy but lack of precision is causing receivers to catch the ball but not always be able to do much with it after that.
Throwing a ball 5 yards doesnt prove accuracy. He threw for 5.7 yards per completion this last game.
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 11:28 am
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:31 am to OU812ME2
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Jayden Daniels has a 'Can't make an interception' problem
I think that's an assumption.
I actually think his issue is different. I don't think he is processing what he sees quick enough. There is almost zero anticipation.
I don't want to knock Daniels though. He's improving. He forced himself to start throwing it in the 2nd half this weekend.
People are complaining about the handful of bad throws he made. That's actually a very good sign for Daniels. It indicates that he's in pass first mode.
He's a work in progress. It's going to take a while.
I do agree that it won't necessarily be a negative...and may actually be a positive when he throws a couple of interceptions.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:36 am to moneyg
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There is almost zero anticipation.
This is his issue plain and simple. It was also his issue when he was at Arizona State. He is who he is at this point. If he wasn’t extremely effective when he does leave the pocket and runs then it would be a bigger problem.
I just have tough time complaining when he misses a 15-20 yard pass completion to scramble and run for 15-20 yards.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:42 am to OU812ME2
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But it also means that he won't throw into 50/50 coverage or will make throws that no one can catch. People point to 'wide open' receivers, but they still have a defender around them. That's not wide open enough. I don't feel like it's something they can just force him to get over either. Maybe once he gets his first int he'll settle down. But for now we need more short flash open type throws and stop the 4 verts.
It can take time to develop chemistry with your receivers to trust them to go make plays on those 50/50 balls or be able to anticipate where those guys are going to be before they're there. It took Burrow a year and an offseason to develop that chemistry with our guys, and he looked better and better with that regard as we progressed through the 2018 season. Look at his game logs in his first several games: 11/24 against Miami, 10/20 against SELA, 15/34 against Auburn, 16/28 against La Tech. He didn't really start to be the Joe Burrow we saw in 2019 until probably the A&M game in 2018.
Obviously he'll never be Burrow, but he can get better, and I'd rather him "check down" to safe throws now rather than throwing poorly advised passes like Nuss.
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 11:45 am
Posted on 9/19/22 at 12:19 pm to tigerpimpbot
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He was off because he was too cautious that first year until the end of the season.
I'd say the switch was the Georgia game. For Daniels, the game that feels the most like Georgia this year is Tennessee. Been forever since they have been to Tiger Stadium. Really looking forward to that one.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 12:19 pm to TheFlyingTiger
quote:
quote]RPO isn't about the QB running. [/quote
Fully aware.
...with a running qb, it can be one of your now 3 options.
(R)Hand off, throw (P), or keep it and run yourself(also R).
Posted on 9/19/22 at 12:37 pm to OU812ME2
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People point to 'wide open' receivers, but they still have a defender around them. That's not wide open enough.
You are wrong here. I sit straight away in the end zone and have a perfect view of the receivers and coverage. He has receivers who have no one within 5 -10 yards of them that he doesn’t throw the ball to. Nabers was wide open in the south end zone and he waited so long that Boutte crossed the field and tipped the pass it was so late. I think I had time to yell “throw it to Nabers” 3 or 4 times before he released the ball in that play. He had Taylor (I think) down the sideline without a defender within 10 yards and he didn’t throw it. That is not a defender “around them” situation. That is wide open.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 12:45 pm to ChEgrad
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I think I had time to yell “throw it to Nabers” 3 or 4 times before he released the ball in that play
So now we've identified the problem. You're obviously not yelling loud enough, please fix this for our next home game sir.
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