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re: Jacob Hester said that Damone Clark has been out in California so don’t expect him to play
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:11 am to ibldprplgld
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:11 am to ibldprplgld
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We’re (college football) going to see less and less players play in bowl games that aren’t in the CFP moving forward.
And it’s college football’s and the fan’s own fault by putting too much emphasis on the CFP and saying terms like “meaningless bowl games”.
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Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:11 am to Chicken
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It's a meaningless game
It’s only meaningless because LSU has built a culture of quitters.
I hope these guys don’t plan on going to any predraft games and work outs. They could be killed or worse.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:16 am to Byrdybyrd05
And this is why the #18 thing needs to go away.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:19 am to tiggerthetooth
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No one should be shocked players are opting out of a meaningless bowl game for a 6-6 team. Especially guys that are looking to get drafted.
You would hope the players wouldn't, but it shouldn't be unexpected these days. I do find it pathetic that FANS get mad at the players for being "selfish" in choosing not to play in the bowl games when the only reason the fans want them to play is to improve the FANS' viewing experience.
For us, the fans, our involvement with the football team is 4 hours or so every Saturday for 3 months. For the players is it nearly 365 days a year. It is not just at LSU, but these guys have been working 7 days a week for 4 months. They are beaten up, tired, and probably a little bit done with the monotony. For all intents and purposes, the Texas Bowl is a de facto exhibition game. Win or lose, the season is going to end. There is no advancing to the next round with a win. So I can see why guys, particularly guys who are working towards a possible pro career now, don't really feel like spending 3 weeks in BR practicing to play a game with little to no significance. Particularly for a staff where over half of their coaches during the season are no longer here. They are tired of practicing. They just want to rest, recover, and spend a bit of time away from football before starting the work towards next season.
The bowls today are just like anything else. The more of something you have, the less significant each becomes. The prestige and sense of accomplishment in making a bowl game has been severely diluted, When there were fewer bowls earning a trip to one was a great accomplishment for the team/players. Now, unless it is the playoffs, no one really cares. Particularly when it is a bowl game between a middling Big 12 team and the last place SEC West team.
For the fans, just accept the bowl for what it is...a final opportunity to watch your team play for the next 8 months. Don't get too caught up in the result
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:22 am to Byrdybyrd05
Seems like a problem. I understand that’s the current culture and whatever, but it’s bullshite. We needs all hands on deck, especially for this game. Hopefully something Kelly can turn around. He’s supposed to come in and flip the culture.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:23 am to Byrdybyrd05
Honestly I’m fine with it
Got some highly recruited guys at LB that have done diddly squat here so now is their chance to prove they aren’t total busts
Got some highly recruited guys at LB that have done diddly squat here so now is their chance to prove they aren’t total busts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:24 am to Byrdybyrd05
300-500k isn't gonna get him very far. Better get that degree
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:24 am to Chicken
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works for me. It's a meaningless game. Basically a scrimmage for the second and third stringers.
I hate this attitude. Are non conference games meaningless too? What about bad SEC opponents? What about good SEC opponents we arent supposed to beat? Any point in "risking your career" once championship goals are lost? What about a national championship game? Is that even worth risking an injury that could cost you millions? Where does it end? You could justify sitting out any game if you want to and all you care about is protecting yourself for the draft. Basically you just play until you feel you've maximized your draft spot and then quit? Thats what a lot of our guys have been doing the last few years and thats what turns a 15-0 arse kicking team into a charmin soft 6-6 team with all kinds of transfers and opt outs. i want guys that want to play, not guys that want to use LSU as a stepping stone to the pros, with as little effort/risk as possible.
This post was edited on 12/21/21 at 11:12 am
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:26 am to tiggerthetooth
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meaningless bowl game
Exactly which games are meaningful?
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:27 am to Choupique19
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It’s only meaningless because LSU has built a culture of quitters.
It is not just LSU.
That said, name another postseason where a win gets you essentially nothing more than a loss (other than some silly trophy)?
In pro sports you win...you advance to the next round. In the college basketball and baseball tournaments you are trying to win to keep advancing to ultimately a championship. In CFB, except for the playoff, a win in a bowl game doesn't get you any closer to a championship. You don't advance to the next round. The season just ends. Win or lose.
Of course, you can that as a competitor winning anytime there is a competition should make something "meaningful". But the reality is bowl games are the probably the least meaningful "postseason" games any college team plays (outside of maybe the NIT).
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:29 am to Byrdybyrd05
I didn't expect them to play. Way too much on the line to go play in some random bowl game. Excited to see some young players. Good luck Damone and TDP!
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:31 am to ibldprplgld
quote:.. wait till they start having to pay out bonuses to keep players from opting out in meaningless bowl games.. it’s going to happen eventually..
Love it or hate it, that’s where we’re trending.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:33 am to Choupique19
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It’s only meaningless because LSU has built a culture of quitters.
No, disagree in this case. The staff is defunct and a player like Clark that got messed over for the Butkus cannot take a chance. Business decision. If they were in the college playoff they would be playing. Expand the playoffs to 12 teams if you want to see these guys playing.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:33 am to Chicken
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It's a meaningless game.
So no one should be mad when they end up having to cancel it, right
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:33 am to The Pirate King
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We needs all hands on deck, especially for this game.
Yep. Because if LSU can't pull out a win in the Texas Bowl the season is going to end!! Wait, the season is going to end even if they win?
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:35 am to Deuces
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Some people in this thread will never learn smh
“It’s ok. The game doesn’t mean anything.”
This is the exact kind of precedent we want, right? This is exactly what people were saying when all of the players were opting out and quitting during the Orgeron era. Wake up, people.
This kind of attitude is TOXIC and the same people condoning it will be the same ones who bitch when their college football experience isn’t the same in the future…
F@#k off retard. You've never had their potential income on the line. I'm very comfortable believing that you've never faced 3 hours of activity that could strip you of your earning power(as small as it is). Until you've been in their position STFU. Small wage earners will never understand what it's like. You obviously live in a very small world making a very small income. Just STFU and let big boys be big boys.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:35 am to Chicken
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It's a meaningless game
An incredibly stupid take.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:35 am to Byrdybyrd05
This is the same mindset that has several guys every year now checking out (opting out, injury-ing out, etc) as soon as we lose our 2nd game each year. It's not what disciplined, team-oriented, process-driven young men should or would demonstrate. And, yes, get off my lawn.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:38 am to Chicken
So the first game of a season is meaningless to you if we end up in a meaningless bowl game(which is the case for lots of teams).
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:39 am to Chicken
whats the difference between a bowl game and a "meaningless" non conference game against a weak team during the season?
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