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re: It's been 12 hours, why does BDP still have a job?

Posted on 10/18/15 at 11:09 am to
Posted by 58Flash
Member since Feb 2007
454 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 11:09 am to
Maybe BDP is tired. He had some kind of surgery and had to be back to work like the day after he got home. He has a lot of jobs. Miles picked a good friend for the ST coach, instead of a trained ST guy. Who called the fake field goal? Someone drew it up, so there should be some praise for that. Everyone knows that BDP is a nice guy and he has Miles' back. That may be the answer to why he was hired over our homeboy.
Posted by RDOtiger
Zachary
Member since Oct 2013
1171 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 11:13 am to
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Special teams scored the game winning TD FWIW


This is a very foolish statement and mindset, IMHO.

Punting the ball is a common occurrence in every game we play - so, if you have the opposition returning punts for TDs in two consecutive games, you have a huge fundamental problem...fake FGs will only work once a year or maybe once every two years.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464478 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 11:15 am to
BDPs main role is to be a recruiter and assistant to les first, and on-field coach second. i think the "ST coach" label is more a label than anything. with steele and O our coaching became SUPER geared towards recruiting. i think we just need to sort out the coaching to get BDP in a more limited "coaching" role and get somebody, maybe les, more focused on STs

our kicking talent has issues, esp at P. it is what it is

the short kickoffs bug me though
Posted by JustLSUit
North Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
3404 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 11:32 am to
That's on white! He made the bad decision!
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 11:34 am to
when was the last time, anywhere, that an assistant coach was fired mid-season?
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
161626 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 11:37 am to
frick BDP
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 11:39 am to
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ith steele and O our coaching became SUPER geared towards recruiting.


O is a great recruiter, but you are under selling his coaching abilities. He is a really good DL coach.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22560 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 11:41 am to
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No one can to explain to me why he is such a recruiting asset that he is worth losing games for us. I went on the LSU recruiting Board and asked was he such a great recruiter and the recruiting geeks got mad that I even dared to ask a question.


Because some coaches recruit more than others, and they are assigned areas. We are in the middle of our season, to replace him would be very difficult. We would lose contact and continuity with not only uncommitted, but committed prospects. How hard is that to understand?
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79085 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 11:43 am to
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"You can't fix stupid!" - Ron White


Actually you can...you hold its head underwater till the splashing stops...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464478 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 11:44 am to
i didn't say O was a bad coach. he's just limited b/c he's a positional coach
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135101 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 11:49 am to
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That's on white! He made the bad decision!
NO!
White was just doing what he's repeatedly done in the past. Repeatedly shying away from catching punts, yet remaining in the position, is a coaching pblm.

In fact, White has a terrible habit of not fielding punts. Don't know what % he let's hit the ground, but it's high. He doesn't attempt to return most of those he does field. There is no reason, other than coaching, not to try someone different back there.
This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 11:53 am
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 11:51 am to
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BDP is the 2nd HC on the field who goes over that shite with les. he's in the josh henson role





Well that explains a lot, BDP is the brains behind the genius of Miles?
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
8137 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 12:00 pm to
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We would lose contact and continuity with not only uncommitted, but committed prospects. How hard is that to understand?


quote:

It's simple lose national championship or SEC or lose some 17 year old who may or may not turn out to be good.


I choose to win a championship this year rather than pray over some fickle 17 year old who may never attend LSU.
Posted by PlaylikeJeter
Member since Oct 2013
779 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 2:49 pm to
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That's on white! He made the bad decision!


Whites done this for 2yrs and that decision to leave him there is coaching
Posted by Sailin Tiger
Member since Jul 2014
1654 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 3:07 pm to
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You don't think Les and Cam had anything to do with that play?


Don't know how it is everywhere but when I played in high school the other coaches outside of special teams were highly involved in practicing "trick" special teams plays at least much more so than when we were running coverage and return drills
Posted by Broken Arrow
Member since Dec 2007
7781 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 3:09 pm to
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Special teams scored the game winning TD FWIW


Special teams gave up two scores so that a "game winning" score was needed. How's about you go pull for someone else if you are this stupid?!?
Posted by TopsInAmericaTim
Houston Area
Member since Oct 2011
1403 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 3:14 pm to
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Special teams scored the game winning TD FWIW


I thought the same thing, in order to be fair. Then I heard the explanation of what happened. Domingue came up to Les and said, "How about the fake?". He said Les' face lit up and said, "Yeah... do it... but make sure it's there.." ...meaning 'make sure that you can see what we saw on film about Hargreaves and the right side of Floridas FG block team' is there. It was. It worked. I don't think BDP even knew it was called. It's painfully obvious that the drop off from McConaghy (or whatever his name is) and BDP is a gut-wrenching malaise that typifies what used to be the shining game changer for our team. I have a knot in my stomach on every punt and every kick whereas I used to know we had a one up on the other team with ST.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
106777 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 3:16 pm to
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bdp and bobby williams would be a sick grilling tag-team


Co-coordinators, of grilling.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26109 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 3:20 pm to
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We are in the middle of our season, to replace him would be very difficult. We would lose contact and continuity with not only uncommitted, but committed prospects. How hard is that to understand?


I don't know...many kids want to come to LSU regardless of who recruits them. I'm not saying he's not a good recruiter, but Frank Wilson is the one who brings in our biggest studs and he is extremely likable. I'm sure he could just put in a little extra work and keep guys focused on LSU.

The special teams rankings are what they are - atrocious. We followed up a game where we kicked the opening kickoff out of bounds and gave up a 96-yard kick return TD to a true freshman on his first college touch with fumbling away our first punt return against UF and giving up a 72-yard TD on a punt return to tie the game.

White has been flirting with disaster all season trying to field punts he clearly shouldn't field and he continued to do it until it cost us in a big game. That's poor coaching. Fortunately, we had a good offensive showing and we were able to overcome it. I would have "co-special teams" coaches at this point if we don't want to make a move in the middle of the season.
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 3:42 pm to
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Miles picked a good friend for the ST coach, instead of a trained ST guy.



I think that is the problem Miles is loyal and comfortable with being around mediocrity.


A coach has a rught to have subordinates with who he is comfortable, but it seems like a serious conflict of interest to put friendship over the welfare of the team. I don't see how he can justify having brought BDP back besides friendship.
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