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fOrEvErLsU1987
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
I think O knew an aggressive 4-3 style defense would not only match LSU with what he wanted to do but it would also help him tremendously in recruiting on the Dline specifically and we can already see the fruits of that labor coming in the form of the 2020 Dline class and now the potential 2021 class as well


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TigerFan55555
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
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I think this 4-3 suits LSU better but lets not act like Dave is a scrub. Dave is the kind of guy that can do more with less and he was really good for us when we werent stocked quite like we are now. He painted a few masterpieces for us during his time here.(and a few not so great games) I will always admire his football intellect and his contribution while he was here



agree... but I liked the 3/4.... its more multiple and easier to adjust week to week... so many things you can do in it... Aranda was just a damn genius...would love for him to be successful at Baylor and kick the shite out of Texas... when O's time is up, bring Aranda Back.. has so much confidence in him... and the other poster was right... without Aranda Orgeron doesnt get that job... Aranda was the anchor that could keep it together if O failed... thats why it was easier to take a chance on Orgeron.


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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
What’s the point of moving to 4-3 when the majority of the time you’re always going to be in a dime or nickel formation?


nicholastiger
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
I think part of the reason O got the job was that Alleva made him keep Aranda
That's not the first comment he has made regarding Aranda this offseason and Miles gave up on Steele after one season
Steele has done fine at Auburn and likely had a better overall defense last year than LSU

I also think Aranda recruited a different style type of player and LSU needed some top notch DE's that were hard to come by


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wildtigercat93
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
the second we have anyone walk out the door we act like they were terrible.

Joe Brady will be next.


BayouCowboy
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
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O is just a 4-3 guy, always has been. HE knew he couldnt get rid of Aranda because of how good he was but I'm sure he's happy to move on from a passive 3-4 to an attacking 4-3. It doesnt make anything of what Aranda did less, he did a great job overall, just not a perfect fit for what O wanted in a defense.

I agree it's this and nothing more. I think they both respected each other. Philosophically they had different views on how the defense should be structured.


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Alt26
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
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Aranda left the LSU defense in a worse spot than he inherited


...and also coming off of a 15-0 season and National Championship whereafter 6 defensive starters were selected in the draft.

This was very likely going to be a "reloading" year on defense regardless. That it comes off of the best season in school history is ok with me.

If O really wanted Aranda to leave he had a chance to push him out the door following the 2017 season. Instead, he matched A&M's efforts and retained Aranda. You could argue that decision changed LSU football. Part of the incentive to get Aranda to stay was he could hire Bill Busch. Without Busch there is NO Burrow at LSU.

Even though their styles contrasted, O wasn't going to fire Aranda. Even after this season where the defense was weak until the last few games of the season. It just happened to work out as a win-win for both guys. Aranda gets a HC gig. While O gets to implement "his style" of defense.


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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
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the second we have anyone walk out the door we act like they were terrible.


Yep, it's giving me a migraine how this thread is shitting on Aranda. Someone basically insinuated that we should've kept Steele.

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Joe Brady will be next.



Already happened.

Someone on the MSB on Sunday after the Panthers' lost said it was "now clear that the LSU offense was because of Burrow, not Brady"


deaux
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
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Joe Brady will be next.


Just look at the comments from Sunday our fans are a joke


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SammyTiger
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
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What’s the point of moving to 4-3 when the majority of the time you’re always going to be in a dime or nickel formation?


It’s more of a move to a 4-2-5

4-3 more means we’ll have 4 DL vs 3 DL and a BOLB.


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wildtigercat93
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
Lawd

I guess all my bad Oregeron takes from around 2016 are gonna look a hell of a lot better when he retires and this board flips on him too


TheDeathValley
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
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Aranda left the LSU defense in a worse spot than he inherited



He left them as national champions and pretty much shutdown TAMu, Georgia, Oklahoma, and Clemson to end the year lol.


I am sure CEO prefers what Bo is bringing (he went out and got him) but I also think he and Dave got along and would have gladly kept him.


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SammyTiger
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
I don’t get the Anti-Aranda crowd

It’s like they want to ignore ever 22-21 win or 14-16 loss.



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Havoc
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
Aranda is awsome but anyone who has rewatched the big games from last season multiple times during this Wuhan virus shite knows the multiple times he shite the bed with bad calls/formations, some at crucial times.


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Double Down
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
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Aranda left the LSU defense in a worse spot than he inherited




A. You’re drunk
B. You’re stupid
C. Dave sexed up your Mom
D. All of the above

I suspect “D” is the correct answer.


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p&g
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
Heard him on finebaum just now say that

I thought okydoku then .


tigerfan88
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
I mean so far the only offense O has seen the new defense go up against is a Joe Brady-less and Joe Burrow-less offense...let's hope what he's seeing is a much better defense and not just a much worse offense.


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EmperorGout
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
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O is just a 4-3 guy, always has been. HE knew he couldnt get rid of Aranda because of how good he was but I'm sure he's happy to move on from a passive 3-4 to an attacking 4-3.


This. Ed has been a 4-3 coach the vast majority of his career


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SoFunnyItsNot
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
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Aranda had his mind elsewhere last year. He was ready to move on up.


Bro people on this board have LOST THEIR MIND. Last four games of the season last year we allowed 16 point per games...

And that was against A&M(averaged 30 ppg), #4 Georgia(avg 31 ppg), #4 OU (avg 42 ppg. And half of their points were in garbage time), and Clemson(avg 44 ppg).... Like what the frick is this board on.

Pelini may do great. He may not. But I am sick and tired of the Aranda hate on this board. He was EASILY the best coach at LSU for 3/4 years he was here. And yeah we started slow last year. But we were a top 3 defense by the end of the year.

When you score that many points you don't need to blitz a ton and be aggressive. You just need to get a few stops to win the game. And we got way more than a few most games. I get it. This board loves sacks and LOVES blitzing. But in this day and age of the spread offense.. That isn't always easy. The league is changing. And it's very hard to have a shutout defenses. Especially against the teams we played. People LOVE to talk about the stacked schedule we played when referencing Burrow and us being the greatest team of all time. Why does Aranda not get that same respect? Honestly.
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GeorgeWest
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
We saw flashes of a great D in 2019. But we had waaaay too many injuries and suspensions to be consistently good.

I believe Aranda was a great DC. I wish him well as a HC. I'll be pulling for Baylor a team I usually have liked for decades anyway.


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