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Madking
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
I think Orgeron will be a lot more involved now and he can take average DLinemen and make them better. I also think the move to more of the 2 man scheme is going to help as well. We might have to do more blitzing this year because of personnel but I think the idea is to get to that 4 man pressure O and Carroll love to play. This is gonna be Os baby, I think him being excited to do it is a good thing and it could be good with Pelini on board. Kindve a Brady/Ensminger type situation on D.
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Tiger1988
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
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Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
saying defense is ahead this year at this point is not meant to compare Aranda to BP. Having said that, Aranda had a lot of talent to work with but his results were not what you expected from the highest paid DC in the land.


Jesus Christ! How many players were out this year after the Texas game? How many players were suspended or quit during the year i.e. Michael divinity? All I know is that defense once it got healthy, it was unbelievably excellent!

The defensive line lacked depth and injuries took it’s toll. Just go watch the Texas game
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lakelanier
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
Yes he kept everything in front except when he didn’t. He had great defensive backs caught off guard when he never should have.


Tiger on the Rag
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
What was final defensive ranking for each of his years?


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luciouslou
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
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Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?


its safe to say im glad hes gone


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LSUStar
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
Aranda did a great job while at LSU. Down the stretch last season they played lights out. I can utter not a single discouraging word about Dave Aranda.


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geauxpurple
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
Coach O makes it clear that he is very ready for the change, sometimes to the point of insulting to Aranda. Sometimes I think he should be a little more diplomatic about it. Aranda, in his press conferences, has been very complimentary of Orgeron.


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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
I’m sure O heard all the chatter over the years with the nega Os saying stuff like O only has job because of aranda. Because he “inherited” Dave. As if the wheels would have fallen off if Dave left as if there weren’t many other coaches out there who could coach a defense with LSU-Level talent. It was always very disrespectful to O.


adambomb
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
Every time Ed talks about Aranda he always says he did a great job. I'm sure that Aranda knows that Ed O will compliment his new DC, and its not like Aranda didn't leave for a promotion anyway.


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Madking
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
Happened twice and once was the DBs fault, the other time somebody on the sideline distracted the DB. But yea that’s a schematic issue on Aranda lol
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
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Aranda had his mind elsewhere last year. He was ready to move on up.



To the east side?


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GetmorewithLes
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
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As if the wheels would have fallen off if Dave left as if there weren’t many other coaches out there who could coach a defense with LSU-Level talent. It was always very disrespectful to O.


LSU, CEO, and AD liked Aranda enough to pay him more than any DC in the country so he would not leave... think about that. So people on here assert that we would make DA the highest paid Coordinator in the NCAA and probably NFL and we didnt think he was the best... welllll whooda thought that?


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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
O has a placed a high value on coaching staff continuity. The money wasn’t coming out of his pocket. If you can keep that continuity by all means do it. The assertion that o would not be able to find an adequate replacement and the program would go to shite Was always very disrespectful of O.


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Scoob
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
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Seems so, but if was not for the presence of Aranda on the staff, Orgeron never gets the HC job. Aranda was thought to be a stabilizing factor which permitted Alleva to take risks with the HC choice.
No Aranda, no Orgeron.
I think this is the issue, more than any scheme or on-field play, or honestly more than any personal disagreement.

Aranda was untouchable, and he provided the stability to take a chance on Orgeron. That worked early, but I don't think Orgeron remained comfortable with having someone on his staff he wasn't ultimately in charge of, especially after last year.


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tigerjunior
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
Except when we play man bump and run on WRs late in a half or end of game, or 3 and long.


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HuckFinn
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
Are you sure you're responding to the right post? I never once said Aranda was overrated or was not an outstanding coach. I said I think that Orgeron is more comfortable with a 4-3 base defense. Aranda's style of defense is complex and isn't exactly as straight forward as what many defensive concepts are about. Anybody that has ever heard Aranda talk about his defensive concept, or heard anybody try to describe Aranda's concept, it doesn't take long for you to see that Aranda is a very cerebral guy. They don't call him "The Professor" for nothing. Aranda is known for his complex approach. I'm only saying that I think Orgeron probably finds Pelini's approach more straight forward. I never said Aranda was overrated. Not sure where you got that. Aranda's record speaks for itself.


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js1591
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
It was a no brainer that we needed a better dc.


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TxTiger82
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
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What’s the point of moving to 4-3 when the majority of the time you’re always going to be in a dime or nickel formation?



It's all about the defensive line fronts. Aranda played a lot of even and "i" fronts, designed to plug as many gaps with as few DL as possible. Pelini plays more odd and hybrid fronts, designed for DL to penetrate and disrupt. In particular, Pelini's defense is very similar to Pete Carroll's, which features a "heavy" 3-tech DT that fills two gaps (freeing up the MIKE LB) while the other three linemen penetrate.

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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
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We are so much better on defense right now than any part of last year."


Preseason coach speak hyperbole

I doubt the current defense is balling at the level last years unit was those last 4 games.


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Jack Crevalle
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re: Is it safe to assume Orgeron was more than happy to see Aranda leave?
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Bro people on this board have LOST THEIR MIND. Last four games of the season last year we allowed 16 point per games...

And that was against A&M(averaged 30 ppg), #4 Georgia(avg 31 ppg), #4 OU (avg 42 ppg. And half of their points were in garbage time), and Clemson(avg 44 ppg).... Like what the frick is this board on.

Pelini may do great. He may not. But I am sick and tired of the Aranda hate on this board. He was EASILY the best coach at LSU for 3/4 years he was here. And yeah we started slow last year. But we were a top 3 defense by the end of the year.

When you score that many points you don't need to blitz a ton and be aggressive. You just need to get a few stops to win the game. And we got way more than a few most games. I get it. This board loves sacks and LOVES blitzing. But in this day and age of the spread offense.. That isn't always easy. The league is changing. And it's very hard to have a shutout defenses. Especially against the teams we played. People LOVE to talk about the stacked schedule we played when referencing Burrow and us being the greatest team of all time. Why does Aranda not get that same respect? Honestly.



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