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re: Is anyone starting to get a little nervous about Wade re: CBB scandal?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:02 pm to LesnarF5
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:02 pm to LesnarF5
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Hey just curious but lsufball19 are you a lawyer by profession?
Yeah, I don't practice in criminal law anymore and even when I did, I wasn't dealing with crimes on the federal level, mainly dealt with misdemeanors as a way to supplement my income when I was getting started. Did a fair amount of court appointed work my first year in practice, and I interned at the DA's office in law school (actually what i wanted to do, but my career took me elsewhere, mainly due to me wanting to make more money
). I'm exclusively a domestic law attorney now by trade (divorce/custody). However, some of what people seem to misconstrue or not understand are just pretty basic procedural issues, the rules of evidence, etc, all things that are absolutely issues I do encounter in my practice. Although, I will admit I've been playing catch-up on a lot of the proceedings that have already taken place over the last year or so, as I wasn't really paying all that close attention to the case until Wade was subpoenaed. But from what I have been able to deduce, LSU hasn't been discussed all that much in terms of a potential NCAA investigation. Most of those discussions have pertained to Kansas, Arizona, NC State, and Louisville. I have almost zero worries about him from a legal perspective, not sure why people seem to want to bring that up all the time. I think some think the FBI is the one who subpoenaed Wade, or at least that's all I can come up with as to why they have those concerns. That, or they watch too much television
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 1:18 pm
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:05 pm to GeauxTime9
quote:Same here.
I'll be nervous until something is released saying Wade and LSU are cleared of any illegal recruiting regarding NCAA basketball.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:07 pm to LSURussian
You are pretty good at concern trolling g
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:07 pm to GeauxTime9
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I want to agree with Wade being innocent and not having any relationship with Dawkins. However, the 15 second conversation doesn't make it sound like he has never had any dealings with Dawkins.
Well we know he had interactions with Dawkins. The wiretap makes that inarguable. However, what we don't know is what all that interaction entailed outside the 15 second blurb we've seen. For the purposed of the upcoming trial, I don't think it is, in any way, helpful for the defense counsel to call Wade to corroborate the guilt of his own client. His testimony also isn't relevant to the charges filed against Dawkins. In Dawkins' upcoming trial for bribery, he is not charged with bribing Will Wade. It just makes no sense whatsoever to call Wade to testify unless you're doing it for irrelevant purposes to the underlying case. If the NCAA wants to call Wade to answer questions during their own investigation, sure, that makes plenty of sense. That's why I don't think anything of note is going to come out of this trial as it pertains to Will Wade. I guess we'll see.
There's reasons to be nervous, but as I've stated, I don't think there's reasons to be nervous about his testimony at trial. We should only be nervous about what the NCAA decides to do and who/what they choose to investigate after the trial is over and they have the FBI's case file, something they have been unsuccessful in obtaining upon request to the federal court and the FBI.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:08 pm to TexasTiger08
Sure, it's always nice to be cautious. But as other posters have said, Wade has not been charged with anything.
The recruit did not sign here.
Still, LSU fans should feel much better about things once Coach Wade's court appearance is over.
The recruit did not sign here.
Still, LSU fans should feel much better about things once Coach Wade's court appearance is over.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:08 pm to BigEdLSU
What have I posted that is racist?
ETA:
Maybe that fact went over your head.
ETA:
quote:This thread's topic is about "concern", i.e., being "a little nervous" when it comes to anything regarding the NCAA.
You are pretty good at concern trolling g
Maybe that fact went over your head.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:14 pm to LSURussian
I didn't think you were dense, but sometimes common sense escapes those with high intellect.
Is it a compliment, or an insult?
I'll spell it out.. you rack up 100000^3 baseball posts of positivity, but shite on basketball at every opportunity.
Is it a compliment, or an insult?
I'll spell it out.. you rack up 100000^3 baseball posts of positivity, but shite on basketball at every opportunity.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:14 pm to lsufball19
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f the NCAA wants to call Wade to answer questions during their own investigation, sure, that makes plenty of sense.
It's also helpful that the original request from the NCAA to obtain the FBI files was denied. If that happens again, I assume the only thing they'll have to go on is the released 15 second recording and whatever public testimony is relevant (if it happens). Seems like not much for the NCAA to work with.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:15 pm to TexasTiger08
No. He was subpoenaed, not indicted or summoned. Unless he becomes a suspect, he’s just a witness so I’m not worried.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:19 pm to lsufball19
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and they have the FBI's case file,
Seems like you may know this answer. Is the FBI required to release this info? Is it public records? I assume the media will want to get this file as well.
I can only imagine how many recordings are sitting in a file cabinet somewhere in an FBI office.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:20 pm to BigEdLSU
quote:What have I posted in this thread or any other thread that "shits on basketball"?
but shite on basketball at every opportunity.
If anything, my posts are indicative of someone who is a fan of LSU basketball and doesn't want to see it get cross ways with the NCAA like we did during the last few years of Dale Brown's tenure.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:24 pm to LSURussian
Very effective concern troll... whatever to each their own
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:25 pm to LSURussian
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Still, LSU fans should feel much better about things once Coach Wade's court appearance is over.
IMO, the court appearance is just the beginning. That is part of the FBI investigation. I guarantee you that the NCAA will be cranking up their investigation soon after the FBI investigation.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:28 pm to BigEdLSU
Okay, I got it, you just like to make unfounded accusations like every typical troll on here does.
You can't back up your accusations even a little bit.
You look silly.
You can't back up your accusations even a little bit.
You look silly.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:33 pm to GRTiger
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It's also helpful that the original request from the NCAA to obtain the FBI files was denied. If that happens again, I assume the only thing they'll have to go on is the released 15 second recording and whatever public testimony is relevant (if it happens). Seems like not much for the NCAA to work with.
They'll get the files eventually, but the FBI made it clear to them they won't release anything until the trial is over. And that's 100% standard. The FBI is not going to have their case potentially tainted by their files being released to non-parties to the case.
The NCAA wants to jump start their investigation. Unfortunately, the justice system doesn't care all too much about a non-party, private organization conducting an investigation outside without there being a concurrent active case in some other court. What's funny is they filed a request to be an intervenor in the case for the purpose of filing a Motion to obtain the FBI's files. It was denied based on it being improperly filed. It's pretty amazing to me at the incompetence of an attorney representing a entity as large as the NCAA to make an error as simple as that
Also of note, the Judge stated that any Motion filed by the NCAA had to address a legal basis for intervening in a criminal case for the purpose of retrieving evidence, which kind of implies they failed to provide such a basis in the request they filed. I mean, what kind of boob of an attorney files a Motion for relief in federal court without providing a legal basis for said relief. Simply amazing
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:38 pm to JustSmokin
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Is the FBI required to release this info?
I don't believe they are until a case has been fully adjudicated. The Judge wants the NCAA to provide a legal basis for releasing the information. Once a case has been adjudicated, I feel like a simple FOIA request would get them anything they want. Think of it like any other criminal case you see and the media wanting the DA's file and then acting outraged when their requests are denied
The Court has a responsibility to ensure there is a fair trial. They do not want people convicted or acquitted in the court of public opinion and potentially have the jury pool tainted by having potentially inadmissible evidence released to non-parties to the case. The federal court probably couldn't care less about a private entity's non-court proceedings being delayed due to a criminal judicial proceeding.Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:49 pm to lsufball19
The silver lining in all of this is if Wade gets popped Alleva will be out of the complex within 24 hours.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:58 pm to MightyYat
NCAA already looked into it. If they had any evidence he would be charged.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:01 pm to tigerbacon
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NCAA already looked into it. If they had any evidence he would be charged.
NCAA actually hasn't looked into much because they haven't been provided with anything that hasn't been released to the general public, which is why they are trying to file Motions to retrieve the FBI's case file. The NCAA doesn't charge Wade with crimes and doesn't need evidence of a criminal offense to open up an investigation into the program. If the Feds had evidence to indict Wade, then yes that would have happened by now. But that has little to do with the NCAA.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:12 pm to LSURussian
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What did Wade mean when he told the player's representative on the recorded phone call, "I can get you what you want."?
I'm sure we all know what he was talking about, but the thing is, that's not damning evidence, so much so the judge threw it out, because it could be interpreted many different ways.
And as far as all the other "recorded calls", if that's the best they could bring up, then I feel confident right now they dont have much if that's what they wanted to present and the judge dismissed it.
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