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re: Is anyone starting to get a little nervous about Wade re: CBB scandal?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:20 pm to TexasTiger08
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:20 pm to TexasTiger08
He's a potential witness. He's not going before a grand jury to face an indictment. If the FBI had anything on Wade, he'd be at the defense table, not on the witness stand. There will be no Col. Jessup moment. It's not even a foregone conclusion that he'll be called to testify. A subpoena simply means he has to appear at court and be available if they decide to call him.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 12:21 pm
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:20 pm to RidiculousHype
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LSU attorneys have ordered him not to say a word about it publicly.
and that is what they should be advising him to do. He'll have plenty of time to defend his reputation at the proper time and in the proper setting. Doing so in the media right now is not the proper time nor the proper setting.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:20 pm to TexasTiger08
From LSUs attorneys office, "I'm confident that Will Wade wont even have to testify."
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:20 pm to Tigerfan7218
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but secondly the one phone call that's been made public is definitely NOT an NCAA violation seeing as the player did not wind up at LSU
Ole miss football sends a hearty EL OH EL at this
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:21 pm to TexasTiger08
You know the SECRantards are watching this thread like a hawk. 
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:22 pm to NoGeaux
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He was called by the defense. Not to testify against him. Lol.
This is key, and why I think the NCAA won't get whatever dirt they're lurking around for.
The defense is calling him, presumably to testify that he had no knowledge of the defendant's alleged crimes, and possibly to state unequivocally that nothing improper was discussed between them. That, if true and presented, only helps Wade.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:25 pm to LSUFord
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From LSUs attorneys office, "I'm confident that Will Wade wont even have to testify."
It honestly wouldn't surprise me in the least if any of these things happen:
1. Dawkins pleads guilty and the subpoena goes away
2. The federal prosecutor objects to Wade's testimony on the basis of relevance and that objection is sustained
3. A representative for Wade files a Motion to Quash the subpoena, also on the basis of his testimony being relevant, and that Motion is granted by the federal court judge.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:26 pm to TexasTiger08
Much more worried about him going back to Clemson or to UNC than about the investigation.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:28 pm to LSUFord
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From LSUs attorneys office, "I'm confident that Will Wade wont even have to testify."
That's very possible. In every trial both parties submit a list of potential witnesses prior to the start. Not every witness makes it to the stand.
Much of it has to do with what evidence the judge will allow in. The judge in the last trial didn't allow the recording in as evidence.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:28 pm to TexasTiger08
I have confidence in Wade's honesty. I am not worried.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:28 pm to Tigerfan7218
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the one phone call that's been made public is definitely NOT an NCAA violation seeing as the player did not wind up at LSU
That's actually incorrect. If a representative of LSU offers impermissible benefits to a recruit, it's still a violation even if the player goes elsewhere. If a player or his family initiates the contact and the program itself is not culpable then there is no violation (see Cam Newton and Auburn). Part of Ole Miss' violations was offering/paying a Miss State player cash during his recruitment. The problem with merely allegations of pay-for-play offers made to players who go elsewhere is there generally is no paper trial, and the NCAA typically can't make anything stick without supporting evidence. It also makes it impossible to make a case that ineligible players were playing, so no wins can be vacated either.
My thoughts are if there was anything more the FBI had than the vague and brief wiretap on Wade, then they probably don't have anything more than that. If there was more, Wade would have been indicted along with the coaches that already took pleas and defense counsel 100% would have tried to introduce that piece of evidence at trial. But all they tried to introduce was an extremely vague, 15 second conversation. It makes no sense whatsoever to think they have anything more if we haven't heard about it and defense counsel hasn't tried to use it.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:33 pm to JustSmokin
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That's very possible. In every trial both parties submit a list of potential witnesses prior to the start. Not every witness makes it to the stand.
yep
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Much of it has to do with what evidence the judge will allow in. The judge in the last trial didn't allow the recording in as evidence.
yep, they had an evidentiary hearing outside the purview of the jury, and the evidence wasn't allowed to be presented.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:35 pm to TexasTiger08
Everyone cheats. The problem i have is that the NCAA doesn’t investigate equally. Similar to our government. If you are in the clique, you can commit murder and nothing will happen, but if you aren’t one of the good ole boys, you get hammered.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:36 pm to GRTiger
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The defense is calling him, presumably to testify that he had no knowledge of the defendant's alleged crimes, and possibly to state unequivocally that nothing improper was discussed between them.
Unfortunately, that isn't why they want him. They only want him to present to the court that there is a "culture" in college basketball, not to present evidence their clients did nothing wrong. That's why it wasn't allowed in the last trial. It makes no sense to call Wade to testify to corroborate to the Court that their client was, in fact, guilty of the crimes with which he charged. Defense counsel has already stated that they want to blow the lid off the culture of college basketball recruiting underworld and expose everyone. I don't foresee a federal court judge allowing defense counsel to merely make a show of the proceedings.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:42 pm to Tigerfan7218
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:45 pm to lsufball19
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They only want him to present to the court that there is a "culture" in college basketball, not to present evidence their clients did nothing wrong.
LOL, really? That definitely seems irrelevant (meaning I agree with your prediction). Why choose Wade at all in that case, unless they are going for backdoor self-incrimination (even in that case, Wade is young and relatively new, he wouldn't seem to be a good witness to some long-standing culture of cheating).
LSU lawyers will eat if this is the defense's angle. Very unlikely Wade will testify.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:46 pm to Tigerfan7218
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Yep, definitely a serious possibility... If so this all goes away. Even if he gets on the stand, the FBI is 100% not looking at him
We aren't worried about the FBI bud, we are worried about the NCAA.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:55 pm to GeauxTime9
Hey just curious but lsufball19 are you a lawyer by profession? I ask because I enjoyed reading your views on this situation.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:57 pm to GeauxTime9
I want to agree with Wade being innocent and not having any relationship with Dawkins. However, the 15 second conversation doesn't make it sound like he has never had any dealings with Dawkins.
I'll be nervous until something is released saying Wade and LSU are cleared of any illegal recruiting regarding NCAA basketball.
The thing that makes me happy...If we did cheat, we beat UK at their own damn game. The SECRant is delusional if they think LSU is the only school that has had any involvement in all this pay for play shite.
I'll be nervous until something is released saying Wade and LSU are cleared of any illegal recruiting regarding NCAA basketball.
The thing that makes me happy...If we did cheat, we beat UK at their own damn game. The SECRant is delusional if they think LSU is the only school that has had any involvement in all this pay for play shite.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:00 pm to LSURussian
That lsu Rushian is a racist
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