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Posted on 6/19/18 at 7:38 pm to bubbz
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Aaron also pitched in an era that had bats and balls toned down contrary to when Ben pitched.
You don’t know what you’re talking about. Bats started getting juiced up (players too) in the mid 90s
Posted on 6/19/18 at 7:43 pm to 7th Inning Stretch
Mike Sirotka has to be in this discussion guys
The guy knew how to pitch. I doubt he ever topped 91, but damn he was a warrior
The guy knew how to pitch. I doubt he ever topped 91, but damn he was a warrior
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 6/19/18 at 7:46 pm to 7th Inning Stretch
Better stuff doesnt mean throwing harder. Ill take nola all day over big ben. His stuff, curve, change, and location is way better
Posted on 6/19/18 at 7:58 pm to josh336
Both great Tigers in my book. Joys to watch.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 8:00 pm to 7th Inning Stretch
Never got to see Ben, but having season tickets when Nola was there was awesome. Going to a game on Friday night you knew the Tigers we’re taking home a win. That is a rare and beautiful thing in a game like baseball.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:29 pm to Lakeboy7
quote:I umped him in High school and you are full of shite. He had a break your back curve and then at LSU had a change.
Ben had a big, flat fastball and thats it.
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:34 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
quote:I posted this in another thread, but based on one season so not quite a career. That ‘92 season was a MONSTER. And these idiots that say the bats were the same then as B.B. Core is today are COMPLETELY FULL OF shite. The exit velocity hurt players in high school and in college.
No love for Lloyd Peever?! Yeah, he was only here for one season, but he was phenomenal. I've never seen a collegiate pitcher that could paint the black like he could.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:50 pm to bugafor6
Paul Byrd had a better career than Ben McDonald. Aaron will likely end up the best though.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:56 pm to Tiger in NY
Bro, do you even Mark Guthrie?
Posted on 6/19/18 at 11:37 pm to Solo Cam
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Ben had better “stuff”
While I love Ben, he can only dream about having the movement that Nola puts on every single pitch he throws. Nola’s “stuff” is the reason he’s as good as he is in the MLB.
These are 3 different pitches, all starting off in the inner/outer half of the plate and all finishing out of the zone. A mid 90’s fastball with that much tail is just unfair. This is just filth and some of the best “stuff” in the league right now.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 12:13 pm to TheChosenOne
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While I love Ben, he can only dream about having the movement that Nola puts on every single pitch he throws. Nola’s “stuff” is the reason he’s as good as he is in the MLB.
These are 3 different pitches, all starting off in the inner/outer half of the plate and all finishing out of the zone. A mid 90’s fastball with that much tail is just unfair. This is just filth and some of the best “stuff” in the league right now.
Do you think that pitching has wveved in the last 30 years? Was there a circle change then? How often were people throwing a true cutter before Mo Rivera?
I wonder if Ben had a true pitching coach growing up ie before college? I wonder if playing basketball at LSU interrupted fall ball? Was there even fall ball then?
There are a lot of questions that people can get educated on IF this shitty comparison of past and present athletes keep coming up.
You can’t really do this without looking at everything including health, fitness, technology, and changing times. There was very little to ZERO travel ball when Ben played.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:58 am to ell_13
quote:Ok-
ell_13
1989 Ben McDonald and 2013 Aaron Nola come out in the 2018 Draft.
Who goes higher?
Posted on 6/21/18 at 12:09 pm to lsupride87
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Ben faced slightly harder bats, but they were not the juiced bats of the 90s,
The bats they used when McDonald was here were not just “slightly” harder
They were aluminum bats. The juiced/ nuclear bats were the -5s and I’m pretty sure they only used those for 2-3 seasons in the late 90s. The other aluminum bats were -3 iircThis post was edited on 6/21/18 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 6/21/18 at 12:30 pm to ell_13
quote:it still chaps my behind that we went 0-2 that year. I don’t think I will ever get over that
If I need to win a game, give me 2013 Nola over any LSU pitcher ever.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 12:35 pm to Tiger1988
I never seen a freshman with control like Nola had, I knew he was gonna be special. He walked like 7 dudes his freshman year. He actually had to learn to throw balls because he was just relentless pounding the strike zone as a freshman and would give up too many hits.
Nola is the GOAT IMO.
Nola is the GOAT IMO.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 1:00 pm to H-Town Tiger
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The juiced/ nuclear bats were the -5s and I’m pretty sure they only used those for 2-3 seasons in the late 90s. The other aluminum bats were -3 iirc
I think the -3s came around sometime around 2001 or 2002. I used them in Jr high and highschool
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:55 pm to CottonWasKing
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Posted on 6/21/18 at 3:13 pm to CottonWasKing
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I think the -3s came around sometime around 2001 or 2002. I used them in Jr high and highschool
I’m pretty sure they were -3 then they used the -5 for 3-4 years or sonand stopped after 98 and went back to -3
Posted on 6/21/18 at 3:16 pm to LafourcheTiger
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Your real power guys still crushed 20 plus home runs a year so it had no huge effect on them
LSU hit 188 HR in 1 year. B Larson had 40 and was 2nd in the NCAA to Lance Berkman
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