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Posted on 12/10/21 at 9:53 am to OLDSKUIL
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Wouldn't it be great is the NIL was subtracted from their scholarship, thus saving the taxpayers a ton of money.
TAF pays for athletic scholarships. Not taxes.
ETA: Athletic scholarships have to be paid for by the athletic department. The academic side is reimbursed every year for all athletic scholarships. If donations do not pay for all of them, the revenue has to pay the rest.
This post was edited on 12/10/21 at 9:56 am
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:39 am to rickgrimes
So it’s better the school pay every athlete on campus as opposed to the athletes getting paid by other companies based on what those companies think they are worth? Some dumb people saying stupid shite in this thread.
This post was edited on 12/10/21 at 11:44 am
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:54 am to Mr Cell Phone
quote:So Hugh Freeze's annual salary at Liberty of all places.
85X 50,000 = $4,250.000 All scholarship players .
Most small schools absolutely can afford to pay players. The issues, as many have said, is Title IX in that they can't afford to pay every single athlete like they'd have to, which is absurd but that is the rule currently.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:11 pm to rickgrimes
The NIL thing was supposed to allow the players to collect off their names and likenesses, while the NCAA could still hold the pretense that these are amateur sports.
But, just as I predicted for years (and I know I was far from the only one), "name and likeness" is not limited to jersey sales and autographs. It was obvious that they would start partnering with businesses by putting their "name and likeness" in ads, and whatever else, which would stand to benefit some far more than others. And that is what pro sports are for, not college. But people wouldn't let go of their "fair pay" crusade on behalf of the players, and they finally got what they asked for. The destruction of the amateur model.
People would do well to accept that life isn't "fair", and that sometimes you have to be good with inconvenience, over chaos. Every time people try to fix something, they make it worse.
But, just as I predicted for years (and I know I was far from the only one), "name and likeness" is not limited to jersey sales and autographs. It was obvious that they would start partnering with businesses by putting their "name and likeness" in ads, and whatever else, which would stand to benefit some far more than others. And that is what pro sports are for, not college. But people wouldn't let go of their "fair pay" crusade on behalf of the players, and they finally got what they asked for. The destruction of the amateur model.
People would do well to accept that life isn't "fair", and that sometimes you have to be good with inconvenience, over chaos. Every time people try to fix something, they make it worse.
This post was edited on 12/10/21 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:15 pm to rickgrimes
Yes. But ya know something so simple has to be made complex. Greed a major factor
Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:32 pm to rickgrimes
Maybe you missed the part where the courts said the players have a right to NIL regardless of what the schools/NCAA wants
Posted on 12/10/21 at 1:13 pm to rickgrimes
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think that would have been much better than the NIL and the transfer portal and all the other mess we have currently.
There’s nothing inherently wrong with NIL, or the transfer portal for that matter. The crux of the issue is immediate eligibility in conjunction with NIL. That is what has created the defacto free agency going on in college sports right now.
Assuming Ricks’ really is NIL and he feels he’s not getting enough money, if he still had to sit out a year I doubt he would be looking at transferring.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 1:13 pm to oneg8rh8r
quote:and most athletic programs aren't that profitable, if they're profitable at all.
What you are talking about, every single player for every school for every single sport that is on the roster, regardless of talent they bring to the table, would have to get paid, the same amount......that is equality.
We're looking at it from inside the bubble, where our football team makes a profit of $50+ million. Most universities outside of the major conferences are 90+% less than that.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 1:23 pm to oneg8rh8r
It didn’t start with Johnny Football. It started with Ed O’bannon.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 3:54 pm to rickgrimes
Too late. NCAA screwed that up. For decades, stipends were discussed. NCAA as usual, did nothing. Never proactive or ahead of the game. So now, it's too late. We have the wild west.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 6:35 pm to oneg8rh8r
NCAA isn’t like a minor league because we have no draft or salary caps to keep the league somewhat fair. NIL is being used almost completely to pay players and skirt NCAA rules and not for the commercial worth of their name image or likeness. Very few exceptions.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 7:00 pm to rickgrimes
If only the college football model allowed free market for all...
Let the storming phase hurt for a while...but eventually, free market will rule.
Let the storming phase hurt for a while...but eventually, free market will rule.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 7:32 pm to rickgrimes
I would be stoked if Brennan came back, had an excellent year and cemented the Kelly Era while improving his stock. Come back, Myles!
Posted on 12/10/21 at 8:07 pm to rickgrimes
I like NIL - it’s just in its infancy, making it messy.
I really want to know who is training these guys how to do their taxes. Like do they know when they take $50K that they’ll have to hand over $10 to $15K? I highly doubt it and bet we get some dudes in trouble they never foresaw.
Then you don’t make the NFL and leave school broke and on trial for tax fraud/evasion.
I really want to know who is training these guys how to do their taxes. Like do they know when they take $50K that they’ll have to hand over $10 to $15K? I highly doubt it and bet we get some dudes in trouble they never foresaw.
Then you don’t make the NFL and leave school broke and on trial for tax fraud/evasion.
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