re: Imagine if LSU-Ala or any SEC game ended the same way Wisc-Arizona State ended

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Who actually thought he kneeled if you saw that live?

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I did. But I don't wait for the announcers to tell me what I see either.

As the other poster said, the ref obviously did since he blew it dead so it doesn't matter anyway.

Agree with Chip 100 percent. The QB looked like he stumbled and dropped the ball. Can't blame the defenders for thinking it was a fumble. Then he turned his attention to the ref, instead of trying to line up to spike the ball.

The stupidity was on the part of Wisconsin, not the officials.

that play is just par for the course with LSU's history in aub/bama games.

the bigger shock for me Saturday was that A&M seemed to be the beneficiary of all the questionable calls.

i remember referee call at end of lsuvsflorida
1989 at lsu

florida had the ball score is 13 to 13

what seemed to be last play of game. horn sounded.
lsu and florida heading off field.

ref puts one second back on clock. florida
qb had thrown ball out of bounds. ref says
clock does not start until it hits someone
in this case someone out of bounds.

archer goes crazy....florida lines up kicks
field goal wins game.the crowd did not want to
leave lsu coaches tried to keep officials from
going off field. it was a wild ending.

galen hall immediately resigns in visitors locker room after game because of ncaa violations.

arnsbarger ad at florida hires spurrier in 1990

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Imagine if LSU-Ala or any SEC game ended the same way Wisc-Arizona State ended

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This is actually an interesting and frightening thought.


If it happened to the home team, riots and chaos would ensue.

It would expose the lunacy of most diehard SEC fans

Uhhh,

With all due respect to the OP, we have seen similar happenings against the SEC's favorite three: Bama, Auburn and UF.

The list of egregious "errors" is endless with the honest SEC refs screwing LSU, among others.

Hell, the entire 2009 season was rigged to make sure Bama and UF played in the SECCG. Most people still bring up the blatant PP7 cheat, but many forget Arky, MSU and a few other SEC teams were victims to blatant cheating that season.

Other wonderful "mishaps"

1988 UF @ Home - how can people forget this is beyond me.
2004 @ Auburn
2006 @ Auburn
2009 @ Bama

There are dozens more...you get the point.

I remember that Florida game.

As to the Wisc game, no matter what the refs were thinking, they should have stopped the clock after about 3 seconds of the ASU player laying on the ball. As the Umpire moves forward to the ball, he has two options: rule the ball down and spot it or rule it a fumble. If he rules it a fumble, he should blow the play dead, award the ball to ASU (and then watch as the booth review overturns it). If he rules the ball down, he should immediately recognize that ASU is trying to delay the game and call the penalty. So, even if he had not heard the whistle from the Referee, the Umpire should have called the official's time out.

All that said, Wisconsin didn't help their cause very much. Their team should have lined up much faster, knowing where the ball was going to be. The QB and center have an excuse, but the guards and tackles kind of got caught looking instead of getting into position forcing the referees to do something. Had the Umpire set the ball with about 5 seconds left, Wisconsin wasn't in a position to snap the ball in less than 2 seconds, leaving the absurd "three seconds to spike the ball" rule in play.

Or, just man up and get a kicker who can hit from the hash.

GEAUX TIGERS

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Well, genius, it WAS a live ball was it not? THe clock ran out. If the ball is on the ground it is a fumble in any other scrimmage play unless it is a kick or a pass then the kick is still live or the pass is incomplete and dead. You don't have a clue - read the rule book. A ball on a running play not in player possession is live, hence the clock runs. Rule 2 of the NCAA playbook would help all of you if you can comprehend. That is "definitions" of what a live ball is as it pertains to player possession. A fumble is a live ball not in player possession! Of course, you may continue to comment without knowledge.

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This is so full of fail AND hubris that I wish I were in this thread earlier.

Whats most baffling is the utter lack of concern and control with the clock and resetting the ball for the offence.
That crew should not ref a game for the rest of the year.

This is the absolute truth. The hand or foot touching the ground does NOT kill the ball and the QB is NO Different. A player can't expect the officials to assume what he wants to do. Most on here haven't a clue about the rules. Read Rule 2 to know what is a fumble and then read rule 7 to know why this bal was NOT dead. Now, if the officials missed a downed knee that is too bad. I agree with the poster - the coach and the QB share the blame here.