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re: I’m still irrationally angry about the targeting on Sam
Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:12 am to Choupique19
Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:12 am to Choupique19
I had a feeling coming into the game that the SEC officials were going to call targeting on LSU the first chance they could, just to send a message after last week. And of course, they called it on one of the most non-violent tackles in the entire game.
That was the most blatant "spit in your face" moment I've ever seen.
That was the most blatant "spit in your face" moment I've ever seen.
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:21 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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Did UT Target the Bama player and get away with it? Was the Bama player removed from the game due to a concussion?
He made valid points to show that Bama is not being favored. And you respond with this nonsense as though only the EXACT sequence in reverse could possibly disprove your foolishness.
Bama has been winning because they are better. When we have put a better product on the field we beat them. There is not one bad call that has cost us a game against Bama in my memory.
When Patrick Peterson intercepted that ball it was in a game that was thoroughly dominated by Bama's defense slapping our offense around. We were more likely to lose yardage than gain yardage on an ensuing drive.
Devin White's participation in the first half, when he was suspended, would have had about the same impact as his participation in the second half when Bama ran the ball down our throats.
And if Dallas Turner was suspended for the rest of the game Bama still wins easily.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:23 am to LSBoosie
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I think Sam’s was in the grey area I’m talking about. There’s no way to measure what exactly is considered the “crown of the helmet
That’s the thing. There shouldn’t be a “grey area”.
Have a firm definition that’s applied consistently
And I’d argue Sam didn’t lead with the crown if his helmet. He lowered his head a little and the upper forehead hit the runners shoulder pad.
I view the crown of the helmet as the players head completely lowered and hitting with the very top of the helmet where all the force is transferred to the head and c spine.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:30 am to Penrod
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He made valid points to show that Bama is not being favored. And you respond with this nonsense as though only the EXACT sequence in reverse could possibly disprove your foolishness.
He gave one example from one season in a thread about "targeting". I gave another example of targeting to counter his pass interference point.
Hilarious that LSU fans fall over themselves to make these insane points defending the obvious favoritism.
"There was ONE season where Bama didn't get preferential treatment therefore there is no favoritism!!"
LOLOLOLOLOL
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Bama has been winning because they are better
Never said they weren't.
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There is not one bad call that has cost us a game against Bama in my memory.
Funny, because there are dozens of threads from games from prior years where several calls per game cost LSU an opportunity. And that's just OUR games. That's not even scratching the surface of what other teams have dealt with too.
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When Patrick Peterson intercepted that ball it was in a game that was thoroughly dominated by Bama's defense slapping our offense around. We were more likely to lose yardage than gain yardage on an ensuing drive.
Oh, I see. So even when Bama blatantly cheats, you are still going to say nothing would have come of it. Classic way to own both sides of an argument.
You aren't getting a check in the mail from Bama or the SEC for sticking up for them. Sorry.
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Devin White's participation in the first half, when he was suspended, would have had about the same impact as his participation in the second half when Bama ran the ball down our throats.
Agreed. LSU was shut out that game. Again, that is NOT the point people are arguing at all. I noticed you ignored the point about the Bama player doing something way more egregious, and nothing happened to them. THAT is the point.
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And if Dallas Turner was suspended for the rest of the game Bama still wins easily.
Again, not the point, but keep sucking Bama's dick.
This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 9:32 am
Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:32 am to Penrod
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When Patrick Peterson intercepted that ball it was in a game that was thoroughly dominated by Bama's defense slapping our offense around. We were more likely to lose yardage than gain yardage on an ensuing drive.
We were down less than a touchdown at the time of the Peterson pick. You say we were dominated by Bama’s defense, but guess what, it only takes one play. LSU’s defense had dominated Bama’s offense until one play Peterson was not in the game and Julio went about 70 yards on a screen pass.
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Devin White's participation in the first half, when he was suspended, would have had about the same impact as his participation in the second half when Bama ran the ball down our throats.
Lsu was down 16-0 at halftime. Maybe Devin White plays and it’s only 10-0, or 7-0 at half. That’s a different mood in both lockerooms at half.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:37 am to Choupique19
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We were down less than a touchdown at the time of the Peterson pick.
This was after they got away with spearing Jefferson with Tom Ritter staring right at it. That picture has been posted here multiple times. Many other terrible calls that game that went in their favor, yet LSU still hung with them despite the cheating.
Don't worry though, Penrod will own both sides of the argument and tell you that LSU wouldn't win anyway.
They want to believe so bad that it isn't corrupt, they are willing to shite on their own team to do it. It is hilarious to me.
Since Bama had penalties called on them last year, every year prior and every year forward is clean as a whistle! Just ignore what you are seeing and believe Penrod. If games were officiated fairly, LSU would lose anyway! He knows it!
Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:39 am to Choupique19
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until one play Peterson was not in the game and Julio went about 70 yards on a screen pass.
ETA: Wasn't there a block in the back on that play with an LSU defender that almost made the tackle?
So much frickery in that game. Hell, the entire 2009 season the SEC made sure Florida and Bama wouldn't lose. Both those teams had some pretty blatantly rigged games. UF beating Arkansas also comes to mind that year.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:44 am to LSBoosie
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They really need to implement a targeting 1 (no ejection) and targeting 2 (ejection). I feel like that’s such an easy fix for a rule that has a lot of grey area.
Yep, but can we really expect the ncaa to implement anything logical? Criminal frickin organization.
Since they’ve implemented the targeting rule, I’d say about 98% of targeting penalties + ejections are unintentional hits that shouldn’t not warrant an ejection. It’s terrible that they are ejecting players who are just trying to put out game film to make it to the next level.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:47 am to Penrod
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And if Dallas Turner was suspended for the rest of the game Bama still wins easily.
So your thought is that if it doesn't affect the game, there should be no consequences for dirty play? Beside being absurd, how else do you discourage that kind of thing in the future? Hope the coach tells him not to do it again?
Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:54 am to nicholastiger
quote:This actually made the decisions to not call it targeting on the field, then not to review it, then to defend it the week after exponentially worse. They threw the flag because there was contact to the head and neck not because it was late and not because he drove him to the ground under his body weight. This is what the head ref who threw the flag announced at the time.
At end of the day they did flag the Turner hit as roughing the passer
Forcible contact to the head or neck of a defenseless player is targeting. The ref announced contact to the head or neck, the QB in a throwing motion is defenseless by definition. They literally said everything needed for targeting was there they just didn’t call it, didn’t review it, then the week after said it didn’t meet the definition which is simply not true. Then no one questions it. It’s pathetic.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:21 am to Choupique19
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I’m still ready to meet the white hat at Sonic.
I’d show up to throw hands at Sankey and the replay official in Birmingham.
frick the SEC.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:34 am to atltiger6487
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Oh, and last year, Bama was the most penalized team in the SEC.
I’m not sure how this proves your point. They push the limits on penalties, that’s what everyone is trying to say. The moments they happen also matter.
It’s not just against us, I’ve never seen a team hold like bama does and continue to get away with it. It is every play. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are the most penalized team, but they aren’t going to get called for holding every time.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:58 am to Choupique19
No one mentions that the runner lowered their head and shoulders and it's the only reason Sams helmet hit his shoulder. Sam was going for his legs. A regular tackle
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:58 am to Choupique19
No one mentions that the runner lowered their head and shoulders and it's the only reason Sams helmet hit his shoulder. Sam was going for his legs. A regular tackle
Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:02 am to jpainter6174
Post number you called to SEC office
Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:12 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
Ridiculous hypocrisy was shown front and center with the contrast between Bama players clear cut targeting (take the player out of the game move) and Sam's lowering of his head. But, I am in favor of targeting rule which by nature can be in gray area. Players need to be held accountable when they lower the head with face mask facing the ground to prevent themselves from a catastrophic neck injury even when it is considered a football move. The penalty for such has to be strong (kicked out of game,etc) The Sam move put himself at great risk for spinal cord injury. Just a little more one way or the other could have been disastrous. Honestly , the Bama move was criminal. Should have put that known dirty player in jail. That's a pile drive you can't even do in the MMA.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:14 am to Choupique19
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It’s Monday morning and I’m still ready to meet the white hat at Sonic.
I'll meet you there
Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:46 am to STEVED00
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If Turner’s hit wasn’t targeting then nothing is targeting. It is literally the definition of the rule.
Defenseless player - check
Launching yourself to the head and neck area - check
Using crown of helmet - check
Play for Bama - UNCHECK
Posted on 11/13/23 at 12:03 pm to Choupique19
Despite what fans here think, it happens elsewhere too.
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Clemson star running back Will Shipley has now taken questionable hits back-to-back weeks against NC State and Georgia Tech, with head coach Dabo Swinney sharing Sunday that the Tigers submit all the officiating calls it disagrees with to the ACC league office for review.
The one against NC State was bad, and it looked like clear targeting.
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 12:24 pm to Choupique19
Right's right and wrong's wrong. Jesus didn't deserve crucifixion, and we still recognize it today, so the passage of time doesn't correct an injustice.
Now, you can't go back in time or replay a game. But you can apologize and fix rules going forward.
It was blatant hypocrisy and shouldn't be forgotten.
Now, you can't go back in time or replay a game. But you can apologize and fix rules going forward.
It was blatant hypocrisy and shouldn't be forgotten.
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