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If you agree that Coach O was not the right hire at the time...

Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:40 pm
Posted by frankenfish
Crofton, MD
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:40 pm
Who do you think LSU should have hired instead, after Herman and Fisher said no? As I recall the next tier candidates were:
-Mullen
-Gundy
-Fedora
-Fleck

I am far from a Coach O or Alleva apologist but what might have worked better?

With the benefit of hindsight I'm thinking maybe Mullen, if he could keep Aranda, might have been better. It will be interesting to see what Mullen can do at Florida but it's far from certain that he could have kept Aranda at LSU and if that's the case is Mullen with no Aranda better than O with Aranda?

Time will tell if it was the right decision but with what we know now what would have been a better decision than hiring Coach O last fall?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:40 pm to
Literally anyone else
Posted by jgoodw318
Bossier City
Member since Sep 2013
1174 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:41 pm to
Logic doesn’t work on these people...
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
11396 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:42 pm to
Mullen? Kiffin? Frost? Literally anyone else?
Posted by Tigercowboy
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
5096 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:42 pm to
I don't think Aleva had an accual list past Herman and Jimbo but anyone would have been better. We needed a culture change.
Posted by tehmidget
Prairieville, LA
Member since May 2004
1249 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:42 pm to
If it were my choice I would have gone with Fleck. At least we would have an identity.
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10543 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:45 pm to
Gundy is the best of that list but not sure he would have wanted to follow Miles again. I think he's happy where he is.

Mullen would have been a slam dunk hire. He's going to make Kirby's job much, much harder over the next 5 years.

Fedora has always been middle of the road.

Fleck would not have fit in well here. He would need an elite staff of southern recruiters and I think his rah rah "Row the Boat" schtick would get real old if he wasn't winning big here. LSU fans will eat their own in a heartbeat and I'm not sure his personality bodes well in that type of environment.
Posted by dandan
Member since Nov 2007
5084 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:45 pm to
Mullen was my fallback guy after Herman and fisher. He is clearly better than Orgeron. I know some wanted frost and pushed hard. LSU gambled on a guy with very little upside and tons of risk. Just a terrible decision all around.
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
8172 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

With the benefit of hindsight I'm thinking maybe Mullen, if he could keep Aranda, might have been better.


He'll Mullen had a pretty great defense the last 2 years without Aranda.

Mullen is light years better than O
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6852 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:45 pm to
Fleck
Kiffin
Mullen
Gundy


Would have all been better choices by far.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

If you agree that Coach O was not the right hire at the time


Is this where I list the coach I wanted and then you list his record this year and how Orgeron was just as good or better than that guy, therefore that clearly makes O the superior coach?
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4843 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:46 pm to
There is, quite literally, a list of about 30 names that should have come up before O. And 30 is being generous.

That being said, Scott Frost would have been my 3rd phone call.
This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 12:49 pm
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10346 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

I don't think Aleva had an accual list past Herman and Jimbo but anyone would have been better. We needed a culture change.


Jimbo never wanted the job and was using LSU to leverage FSU, he changed this year because his dwindling relationships at FSU.

Herman wanted TX...end of story.

LSU was being played just like Miles played LSU a few years back.




Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
11702 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:48 pm to
None of the above were coming to LSU
Posted by Broham
Member since Feb 2005
19181 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:49 pm to
Any of them 4 are more qualified and better than zerO.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

None of the above were coming to LSU


Then they needed to fire Alleva and hire an AD first, because he’s the reason they weren’t coming.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
11702 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:50 pm to
This is the right answer.
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
8172 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:50 pm to

None of the above were coming to LSU


bullshite. Kiffin would have jumped at an SEC offer.

Mullen knew he wasn't getting anywhere near Atlanta with State.

This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 12:51 pm
Posted by frankenfish
Crofton, MD
Member since Feb 2008
865 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:51 pm to
TigerJay and Tigercowboy- interesting that we're all in the same neck of the woods.

And with what we saw this year I'd now agree Kiffin and Frost would have been good hires. But this time last year Kiffin was in essence being jettisoned from Alabama and Scott Frost had UCF finishing 3rd in the AAC East with a losing record after losing the Cure Bowl. Maybe now we'd look at either of those hires as genius hires by Alleva, but back when O was hired he'd have been run out of town.

I guess what I'm asking is if O wasn't the right answer (and it's looking like he wasn't) only knowing what was known then who was?
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
11702 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:51 pm to
Dude, they weren’t coming here. LSU is not as bad arse as everyone claims lol
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