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If you agree that Coach O was not the right hire at the time...
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:40 pm
Who do you think LSU should have hired instead, after Herman and Fisher said no? As I recall the next tier candidates were:
-Mullen
-Gundy
-Fedora
-Fleck
I am far from a Coach O or Alleva apologist but what might have worked better?
With the benefit of hindsight I'm thinking maybe Mullen, if he could keep Aranda, might have been better. It will be interesting to see what Mullen can do at Florida but it's far from certain that he could have kept Aranda at LSU and if that's the case is Mullen with no Aranda better than O with Aranda?
Time will tell if it was the right decision but with what we know now what would have been a better decision than hiring Coach O last fall?
-Mullen
-Gundy
-Fedora
-Fleck
I am far from a Coach O or Alleva apologist but what might have worked better?
With the benefit of hindsight I'm thinking maybe Mullen, if he could keep Aranda, might have been better. It will be interesting to see what Mullen can do at Florida but it's far from certain that he could have kept Aranda at LSU and if that's the case is Mullen with no Aranda better than O with Aranda?
Time will tell if it was the right decision but with what we know now what would have been a better decision than hiring Coach O last fall?
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:40 pm to frankenfish
Literally anyone else
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:41 pm to frankenfish
Logic doesn’t work on these people...
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:42 pm to frankenfish
Mullen? Kiffin? Frost? Literally anyone else?
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:42 pm to frankenfish
I don't think Aleva had an accual list past Herman and Jimbo but anyone would have been better. We needed a culture change.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:42 pm to frankenfish
If it were my choice I would have gone with Fleck. At least we would have an identity.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:45 pm to frankenfish
Gundy is the best of that list but not sure he would have wanted to follow Miles again. I think he's happy where he is.
Mullen would have been a slam dunk hire. He's going to make Kirby's job much, much harder over the next 5 years.
Fedora has always been middle of the road.
Fleck would not have fit in well here. He would need an elite staff of southern recruiters and I think his rah rah "Row the Boat" schtick would get real old if he wasn't winning big here. LSU fans will eat their own in a heartbeat and I'm not sure his personality bodes well in that type of environment.
Mullen would have been a slam dunk hire. He's going to make Kirby's job much, much harder over the next 5 years.
Fedora has always been middle of the road.
Fleck would not have fit in well here. He would need an elite staff of southern recruiters and I think his rah rah "Row the Boat" schtick would get real old if he wasn't winning big here. LSU fans will eat their own in a heartbeat and I'm not sure his personality bodes well in that type of environment.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:45 pm to frankenfish
Mullen was my fallback guy after Herman and fisher. He is clearly better than Orgeron. I know some wanted frost and pushed hard. LSU gambled on a guy with very little upside and tons of risk. Just a terrible decision all around.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:45 pm to frankenfish
quote:
With the benefit of hindsight I'm thinking maybe Mullen, if he could keep Aranda, might have been better.
He'll Mullen had a pretty great defense the last 2 years without Aranda.
Mullen is light years better than O
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:45 pm to frankenfish
Fleck
Kiffin
Mullen
Gundy
Would have all been better choices by far.
Kiffin
Mullen
Gundy
Would have all been better choices by far.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:46 pm to frankenfish
quote:
If you agree that Coach O was not the right hire at the time
Is this where I list the coach I wanted and then you list his record this year and how Orgeron was just as good or better than that guy, therefore that clearly makes O the superior coach?
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:46 pm to frankenfish
There is, quite literally, a list of about 30 names that should have come up before O. And 30 is being generous.
That being said, Scott Frost would have been my 3rd phone call.
That being said, Scott Frost would have been my 3rd phone call.
This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:47 pm to Tigercowboy
quote:
I don't think Aleva had an accual list past Herman and Jimbo but anyone would have been better. We needed a culture change.
Jimbo never wanted the job and was using LSU to leverage FSU, he changed this year because his dwindling relationships at FSU.
Herman wanted TX...end of story.
LSU was being played just like Miles played LSU a few years back.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:48 pm to frankenfish
None of the above were coming to LSU
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:49 pm to frankenfish
Any of them 4 are more qualified and better than zerO.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:49 pm to SulphursFinest
quote:
None of the above were coming to LSU
Then they needed to fire Alleva and hire an AD first, because he’s the reason they weren’t coming.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:50 pm to 00 Tech Grad
This is the right answer.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:50 pm to SulphursFinest
None of the above were coming to LSU
bullshite. Kiffin would have jumped at an SEC offer.
Mullen knew he wasn't getting anywhere near Atlanta with State.
This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:51 pm to tehmidget
TigerJay and Tigercowboy- interesting that we're all in the same neck of the woods.
And with what we saw this year I'd now agree Kiffin and Frost would have been good hires. But this time last year Kiffin was in essence being jettisoned from Alabama and Scott Frost had UCF finishing 3rd in the AAC East with a losing record after losing the Cure Bowl. Maybe now we'd look at either of those hires as genius hires by Alleva, but back when O was hired he'd have been run out of town.
I guess what I'm asking is if O wasn't the right answer (and it's looking like he wasn't) only knowing what was known then who was?
And with what we saw this year I'd now agree Kiffin and Frost would have been good hires. But this time last year Kiffin was in essence being jettisoned from Alabama and Scott Frost had UCF finishing 3rd in the AAC East with a losing record after losing the Cure Bowl. Maybe now we'd look at either of those hires as genius hires by Alleva, but back when O was hired he'd have been run out of town.
I guess what I'm asking is if O wasn't the right answer (and it's looking like he wasn't) only knowing what was known then who was?
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:51 pm to TigerDat
Dude, they weren’t coming here. LSU is not as bad arse as everyone claims lol
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