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re: If we can’t fire Sloan, what can we do to fix the offense for next year?

Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by p226
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2016
2213 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:32 pm to
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So this underwood kid is that good?


NOBODY has any idea how good he will be at LSU.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
6782 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:35 pm to
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Underwood better be very comparable to Jayden in that situation.

Does he have wheels like JD5? Or even close?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79433 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:35 pm to
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I don't think the playcalling has been as bad as some of you make out. Name an offense where you agree with everything they call and ill show you a roster ful of top talent.


the play that works is always the right call and the play that doesn’t is never the right call.

regardless of why.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5545 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:37 pm to
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The play-calling has been consistently bad and very predictable.


The only thing predictable about it is that we struggle to run the ball so you can pretty much guess we are throwing it most of the time. Everybody wants to pile on the playcalling but this offense lacks a deep threat and Nuss is downright bad at throwing the deep ball so teams have no fear and can squat on all the short to intermediate stuff.
Posted by Fast Times @ LSU
Camas
Member since Jan 2005
2202 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:45 pm to
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The only thing predictable about it is that we struggle to run the ball so you can pretty much guess we are throwing it most of the time.


Over the last 3 games, it's been crystal clear how weak our OL is in the middle. I look for Vandy to pressure us right up the A gap all night.

Our OL doesn't generate a run push and outside of Durham, we offer very little threat to run the ball. And Nuss doesn't run often when no one is open. Defenses had to account for Daniels to run in that situation.

Agree on no consistent over the top threat. IMO, defenses are dictating to our offense what we can do.

Plus, Nuss has regressed over last couple of games. running backwards vs. stepping up in the pocket. he seems to panic and misses open WR/TE. it's not a great situation right now.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:47 pm to
You’d be surprised at what having a running quarterback will do for your offense. Especially one who also can throw the ball 100 yards.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4690 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:51 pm to
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Does he have wheels like JD5? Or even close?


He can run, but his high school stats don't suggest he's JD5. Not many are.

JD5

Jr Year: 81 yds/game - 12 carries per game
Sr. Year: 110 yd/game - 12 carries per game

Bryce

Jr Year: 16 yds/game - 1.9 carries per game
Sr. Year: 49 yds/game - 2.9 carries per game
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95661 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:59 pm to
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If we can’t fire Sloan


...or at least demote him and bring in a better playcaller?

quote:

what can we do to fix the offense for next year?


The short list?

Blocking, running, passing, receiving, eliminate pre-snap penalties. Better play out of the QB, RBs, TEs, WRs, OTs and OGs ought to just about do it.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11757 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:03 pm to
Sloan is learning how to call plays in the SEC. Having BU will help with that tremendously.

Hopefully we improve
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95661 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:03 pm to
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He can run






Let's stop trying to make him Jayden Daniels 2.0. Let's have him be the best Bryce Underwood he can be.

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Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
8165 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:05 pm to
our offense is centered around a quarterback who can run the football. Every play looks like that too. We dont know what to do with a non running qb
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4690 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:05 pm to
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It’s very risky with an OL that will most likely have 4 starters missing. Underwood better be very comparable to Jayden in that situation.


I've never read where a recruiting service has compared Underwood to Jayden. I've read several where is his comp is Trevor Lawrence. I think we'd be okay with that.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4690 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:08 pm to
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our offense is centered around a quarterback who can run the football. Every play looks like that too. We dont know what to do with a non running qb


Then why didn't they tweak it? Why did they bring in a backup for Nuss, AJ Swann, that also can't run? Kalen Doboer had Micheal Penix last year who ran for all of eight yards and this year he has Jalen Milroe. A competent offensive mind doesn't have his scheme limited by one type of QB.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:16 pm to
If he can run at all, I mean AT ALL, he will give us a better advantage than what we have now. Nuss can’t run at all
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31513 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:19 pm to
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I get nuss isn’t mobile


he IS mobile. he's just afraid to run.
Posted by bayoubengal014
Member since Dec 2017
244 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:21 pm to
We’re not as talented as we think we are.
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
11128 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:21 pm to
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Move him and Hankton where they should be. Qb Coach and WR coach. Go get an experience play caller.


This is the answer! Underwood will still have Sloan to develop him and he'll have a better OC to put him in a position to succeed in the game.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:24 pm to
Moving them will most likely result in them leaving. Regardless of what’s best for the team.
Posted by Bonjourno
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2010
2781 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:24 pm to
Stop running the offense that was designed for Jayden Daniels with Nuss. Get under center some and get a downhill running game going with some play action. When Underwood is ready, you can run the current offense.
Posted by LaTiger045
franklinton
Member since Oct 2023
306 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:47 pm to
demote him to QB coach give OC to someone else
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