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re: If Orgeron is capable of fixing the downfall after 2019, why didn’t he prevent them?
Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:34 pm to Jack Daniel
Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:34 pm to Jack Daniel
We had a young immature team. Couple that with covid shutdowns in offseason with new coordinators so limited time to install anything. Throw in some race baiting , all sec schedule, and injuries and we were fortunate to do as well as we did.
This is not an excuse. It’s facts and it shows why trying to surround a recruiter as a HC with elite coordinators is not a feasible strategy for sustained success.
This is not an excuse. It’s facts and it shows why trying to surround a recruiter as a HC with elite coordinators is not a feasible strategy for sustained success.
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:36 pm to Jack Daniel
To the OP: If you were capable of not starting a stupid thread today, why didn't you prevent it?
Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:43 pm to TIGERSby10
Obviously I wasn’t capable. My same point about O
Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:44 pm to Jack Daniel
Some of it wasn’t completely foreseeable
Chase, Vincent , Tyler would have all been back if not for Covid.
Most people don’t expect every player to leave at the same time and their starting QB to get hurt, their backup get accused of rape.
There were mistakes made for sure. Bo and Linehan were bad hires.
By the end of the season we were starting 1-2 guys from 2019. When Stingley was hurt and Marshall quit.
Aranda leaving was probably expected but I dont Think before 2019 he could have foreseen Brady getting an NFL OC job.
Chase, Vincent , Tyler would have all been back if not for Covid.
Most people don’t expect every player to leave at the same time and their starting QB to get hurt, their backup get accused of rape.
There were mistakes made for sure. Bo and Linehan were bad hires.
By the end of the season we were starting 1-2 guys from 2019. When Stingley was hurt and Marshall quit.
Aranda leaving was probably expected but I dont Think before 2019 he could have foreseen Brady getting an NFL OC job.
This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:44 pm to Jack Daniel
If you thought he should be fired prior to having the best CFB season ever, what makes you think you are able to identify issues ?
Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:47 pm to Jack Daniel
Have you ever heard of the term "hindsight"?
Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:48 pm to Jack Daniel
I’m just flushing last season. It was a shitshow from the beginning. It should have an Asterix by it in the record books.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:50 pm to Jack Daniel
quote:I've always thought exactly the same thing: If the coach can fix a problem, then why the hell didn't he "fix" it before it became a problem???
If Orgeron is capable of fixing the downfall after 2019, why didn’t he prevent them?
Les said he'd fix things all the time... but why wait until it's a problem that needs fixing. Prepare your team in advance to prevent the problem in the first place.
And please note that this isn't an Orgeron-specific post - it applies to all coaches.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:50 pm to Jack Daniel
GTFO
Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:51 pm to Jack Daniel
Bro, no ones perfect. Y’all forget that a lot on this board. Criticism is warranted on some thing but man y’all expect people to be perfect.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 1:02 pm to Jack Daniel
Replacing 85% of starters from previous season, new DC, new QB and then replacing that QB, starters who quit before and during the season and finishing 500 in an all SEC schedule...I think it was a remarkable job of coaching plus another great recruiting class coming in.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 1:09 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
Some of it wasn’t completely foreseeable
Chase, Vincent , Tyler would have all been back if not for Covid.
Most people don’t expect every player to leave at the same time and their starting QB to get hurt, their backup get accused of rape.
There were mistakes made for sure. Bo and Linehan were bad hires.
By the end of the season we were starting 1-2 guys from 2019. When Stingley was hurt and Marshall quit.
Aranda leaving was probably expected but I dont Think before 2019 he could have foreseen Brady getting an NFL OC job.
Fair assessment. I think most agree that O got complacent/distracted after 2019 and that paired with a bad string of events led to the 2020 results. If Stingley doesn't become a scratch the night before MSU I think we win that game. If Chase, Vincent and Shelvin don't opt out late into the summer we don't lose Mizzou either. If we don't lose Brennan I think we beat A&M. We could have been 8-2, but all of those things happened and we finished 5-5.
If you think about it our best defensive player, Stingley was hurt most of the season, best defensive lineman Shelvin opted out, best WR and offensive weapon Chase opted out, best slot CB Vincent opted out and 2 best remaining offensive weapons Marshall and Gilbert opted out later in the season. Add in losing your starting QB and it's pretty easy to see why 2020 happened.
A lot of people excused Jimbo for FSU tanking after losing their starting QB. That wasn't even in the same stratosphere as what happened to LSU last season.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 2:30 pm to Jack Daniel
Your logic is extremely flawed. One, he might not have known the problem existed until it manifested itself during the season. Think defense and Pelini. Two, he might have known of a problem but had no control over it. For example, the mass migration that took place after the championship season. And three, it happens.
Orgeron has shown the ability to identify a problem and fix it. Remember after the Bama game three years ago. He recognized the offense was a problem and went out and fixed it. To the extent that we had possibly the greatest offensive production in the history of college football.
Orgeron has shown the ability to identify a problem and fix it. Remember after the Bama game three years ago. He recognized the offense was a problem and went out and fixed it. To the extent that we had possibly the greatest offensive production in the history of college football.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 2:49 pm to Jack Daniel
do you not like the new coaches. I like the new coaches, especially on offense. The defense will at least be better and play with more energy
Posted on 3/16/21 at 5:39 pm to Jack Daniel
quote:
Jack Daniel
Go back to the bottle.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 5:46 pm to Jack Daniel
Orgeron’s problem is he doesn’t know Xs and O’s well enough to hire really good coordinators on his own and has to rely on others recommendations, but others can’t know his personel top to bottom and can only recommend using limited info. That’s why he’s mostly whiffed on his coordinator hires. These recent OC/DC hires looks like a dart throw. I’m hoping like hell it works out. If not, he’s audi 5000.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 5:48 pm to Jack Daniel
I was expecting an 8-4/7-5 year. We lost too much. If we had bob conference, we prob end up as expected.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 5:52 pm to Jack Daniel
So spring practice is starting, CEO is on OTB talking a little football and that triggers ol JD to post something stupid.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 5:55 pm to Jack Daniel
I know a position coach. Distant relative.
He said obv youth was an issue last year but biggest problem they had was having players that wanted to play.
End of the season they found the guys that wanted to play football.
Take it fwiw.
He said obv youth was an issue last year but biggest problem they had was having players that wanted to play.
End of the season they found the guys that wanted to play football.
Take it fwiw.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 5:59 pm to ForLSU56
I think any swinging dick with a pea for a brain along with Ray Charles can see what happened.
Besides the main issue, losing so many players, and Covid, O hired Bo Pelini. Without Bo, we beat State and Missouri; with anybody but a freshman QB, we probably beat A & M.
So, we go from 5-5 to 8-2.
Just my thoughts.
Besides the main issue, losing so many players, and Covid, O hired Bo Pelini. Without Bo, we beat State and Missouri; with anybody but a freshman QB, we probably beat A & M.
So, we go from 5-5 to 8-2.
Just my thoughts.
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