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re: If LSU doesn't make the playoffs this year is this a wasted season?

Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by redfishfan
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:01 pm to
We are plenty talented enough on offense although we do lack a big time deep threat.

We are still not good enough on defense talent wise. We are solid at most positions but solid doesn't win championships. Safety is a weakness and maybe the most important defensive position in modern college football. We have recruited well and have a lot of young good players but as Kirby Smart said is his presser about his starting freshman safety, "Freshman are never ready to play in the SEC. We play them out of need.".

Secondary and LB play should be solidified next year as well as interior DL. Might need to get an End and another interior guy in the portal though.
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:01 pm to
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there is no hypocrisy here for me, only you, and I'll pull the receipts if you want me to


The hypocrisy is yours kid. You're obsession with me is quite hilarious though. I wonder are you an alt of that Fat Carl or Loser Earl.
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
4404 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:02 pm to
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there it is

degrading someone just in order to prop up someone else is the sign of a POS human being


You mean like you degrading Nuss? I didn't mention any names moron.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:02 pm to
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The hypocrisy is yours kid.


show me

Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:03 pm to
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You mean like you degrading Nuss? I didn't mention any names moron.


Yeah. People that do that suck.

Wow. Congrats.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
61053 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:03 pm to
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Right. And that one game is what got everyone excited, because we thought it was the start of something big.



In retrospect, that was a quarterback who was little to no passing threat and Perkins could just chase him down all game.

The Arkansas game was probably just a one off and Perkins is more of the kind of player we've seen the rest of the time.
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:04 pm to
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show me


Remember when people hated JD? Did you criticize them or the ones defending him asking if they were relatives or alts? I know which one you did when it was Nuss in this very thread. That's called hypocrisy.
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4078 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:05 pm to
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we finish top-20, but out, then I think it's a fine season with the D we have.

If we finish outside the top-25, and we look bad at the end of the season, then I think many more people will have Kelly on the hot seat in '25.

Personally, I think he's done a great job thus far considering the absolute dumpster fire he inherited. Recruiting has been stellar the last couple of years, so hopefully some of these guys come in, along with better portal guys, and we make the playoffs next year.


Y'all. Kelly can't be on the hot seat if we're not competing for top talent NIL wise.

There needs to be a reordering of expectations for all the teams that can't win the money game.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:05 pm to
I see Ol Miss as beatable by LSU... Possible 10-2 season.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:05 pm to
if we're not competing for top talent NIL wise

But LSU is.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:07 pm to
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Remember when people hated JD?


Yep.

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Did you criticize them or the ones defending him asking if they were relatives or alts?


I criticized them when they were clearly doing it based on an agenda.

JD5 had his faults. Objective criticism is fine.

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I know which one you did when it was Nuss in this very thread. That's called hypocrisy.


Nobody has hated on Nuss in this thread which is why your post was so weird
This post was edited on 9/18/24 at 12:08 pm
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
13179 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:08 pm to
I mean I somewhat get that, but I don’t think it’s a guarantee. Our freshman DB’s the last year Raymond was here were Derrick Davis, Sage Ryan, Matthew Langlois, Ralph Walker, Darius McGhee, Everett Garard, Messiah Farinas, Pig Cage
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
4404 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:11 pm to
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Yep


Hated on not hated and really it was valid criticism. Just to clarify.

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I criticized them when they were clearly doing it based on an agenda.

JD5 had his faults. Objective criticism is fine.


Nobody had any "agenda". You're literally doing it again here. Objective criticism isn't fine because anything you disagree with you'll claim isn't objective. The reality is any criticism was labeled as racist. Not relevant to my point though which is your hypocrisy.

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Nobody has hated on Nuss in this thread which is why your post was so weird


I never said this thread. It's you who brought this into the thread. It was weird, but I just reply when replied to.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:13 pm to
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I never said this thread.


what the frick

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I know which one you did when it was Nuss in this very thread. That's called hypocrisy.


the rest of your post is just complete nonsense

jesus man

This post was edited on 9/18/24 at 12:14 pm
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21764 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:14 pm to
Let's not let this degrade to a pissing contest about who said what.

OP is asking whether this season should be considered "wasted" (I guess a failure) if we don't make the playoffs. MY take is, no.
Nobody with any objectivity thought this team would be elite. If you're Alabama, UGA, or Ohio State, you damn well better make a 12 team playoff.

We're still trying to get back to that tier, and we're not there yet. I think it's coming. I think the terrible defenses of the past few years (going back to 2020) are very soon going to be a painful memory, and we'll be back to "LSU" on that side. Or at the least, back to where it's no longer an embarrassment.
Offensively, I think we're going to be fine. You can't build for a Jayden Daniels, there's just not many of them. I think you can keep the passing attack, and start getting better RBs (which once, we used to have buckets full of), to make things run better.

It just doesn't happen overnight.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
54299 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:16 pm to
100M HC that is in year 3. Yes, since 12 teams make it now.
Posted by Tigercowboy
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
4495 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:17 pm to
Not a wasted year just because we miss the playoffs. Wasted would be not getting any better or developing our roster to point where we are comfortable in most positions heading into next season. Development is key this season if we make the playoffs great but I want to see the guys on this roster improve and take the next step. Set a foundation for the future.
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
4404 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:18 pm to
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the rest of your post is just complete nonsense


None of my post is "nonsense". You seem to have a strong inability to argue honestly and treat others with respect. Instead falling to "nuh uh" responses over and over. No criticism was not an "agenda" and no my post was not "nonsense" though it's clear I wasted time trying to engage with even a modicum of respect.

And as far as this dumbass post I never said Nuss hate was in this thread. I said your behavior toward me which illustrated the hypocrisy I outlined was in this thread. I know you aren't that dense so again I'll assume dishonesty.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:24 pm to
I don't think you know what hypocrisy mean honestly

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I wasted time trying to engage with even a modicum of respect.


I can tell by your posts that you are a POS, so you don't really deserve any respect

Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
4404 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:27 pm to
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I don't think you know what hypocrisy mean honestly


I'll explain the concept since you're dense. JD get hate, you oppose hate. Nuss get hate, you oppose defend him. You hypocrite.

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I can tell by your posts that you are a POS, so you don't really deserve any respect


Actually in a debate you aren't supposed to assume character and supposed to act respectfully toward anyone. Further you know exactly frickall about me. It's you who doesn't deserve respect and is clearly a piece of excrement scrubbed from the bottom of Fat Carl's arse.
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