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re: If Islam is a peaceful religion, then why isn’t there peace in the Middle East?
Posted on 10/13/26 at 2:06 pm to lsucoonass
Posted on 10/13/26 at 2:06 pm to lsucoonass
I was just generalizing that region without having to break into 4-5 different tribes or into Arabs vs Persians( makes for a real good idea of a reality show) just to get the point of those are some vicious people who have been fighting for millenniums and enjoy it
Posted on 10/13/26 at 2:22 pm to rebeloke
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If Islam is a peaceful religion, then why isn’t there peace in the Middle East?
Your question is so callow and ill-defined that it defies any meaningful response. There have been cultural and nationalistic conflicts in the region for centuries that are unrelated to religion. Research the life and experiences of of T..E
Lawrence for a small flavor of those conflicts...
Why have Christian nations gone to war?
I do not defend Islam. It is an ancient religion that arose within a particular culture.
It has been exploited and used for political power for centuries and certainly in recent decades, the response to the displacement of Palestinian populations being an example.
The extreme fundamentalist version of Islam is certainly antithetical to our western values...
Posted on 10/13/26 at 2:28 pm to rebeloke
quote:I think it’s cause we bombed them
If Islam is a peaceful religion, then why isn’t there peace in the Middle East
Posted on 10/13/26 at 2:52 pm to Stinger_1066
Part of it stems from British geopolitical philosophy. Great Britain being separated from the rest of Europe by the English Channel protected their interests by playing continental powers off of each other. They would frequently support the second strongest country in a conflict against the strongest country to manipulate nations into fighting each other, leaving the English alone, often profiting off the war.
This tactic was frequently used during colonialism where the English would carve up a territory to purposefully include multiple different tribes, ethnicities, or religions/language groups, empower the second largest group as the ruling class, and then use the conflicts between the different groups to make English the language franca and the Colonial government the arbiter of disputes.
Not only that, but they would carve up their colonies to separate resources from one another so that colonies would be dependent upon Great Britain to survive and would not be sustainable independent from the Empire. The British did this purposely to keep colonies from uniting into successful nation states as the Americans had done (despite our own shitty internal borders).
This tactic was frequently used during colonialism where the English would carve up a territory to purposefully include multiple different tribes, ethnicities, or religions/language groups, empower the second largest group as the ruling class, and then use the conflicts between the different groups to make English the language franca and the Colonial government the arbiter of disputes.
Not only that, but they would carve up their colonies to separate resources from one another so that colonies would be dependent upon Great Britain to survive and would not be sustainable independent from the Empire. The British did this purposely to keep colonies from uniting into successful nation states as the Americans had done (despite our own shitty internal borders).
Posted on 10/13/26 at 2:55 pm to sta4ever
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There was a long period of peace in the Middle East, then 1948 happened…
lol.... wut?? I can't wait to hear this reasoning.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 2:55 pm to rebeloke
Saying any religion has been peaceful throughout history is like saying America was a peaceful lovely place before the arrival of Europeans. Both statements are extremely false.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 3:20 pm to kingbob
God dang yall it's not complicated.
Now?
Oil/money/power
Remove oil from the ME what do see happening.
Then.
4,000 BC to 7th century AD
Same as everywhere else.
Empires large and small.
Birth of Mohammed
Spread by the sword was Mohammedism all the way to Spain and it's last gasp into Austria.
Mongols golden hoard
Aztec
Vikings Englanders
want to think they went nowhere else
The Indus empires
The Phoenicians
The Roman's
On and on
Win or lose nature abhors a vacuum.
Now?
Oil/money/power
Remove oil from the ME what do see happening.
Then.
4,000 BC to 7th century AD
Same as everywhere else.
Empires large and small.
Birth of Mohammed
Spread by the sword was Mohammedism all the way to Spain and it's last gasp into Austria.
Mongols golden hoard
Aztec
Vikings Englanders
want to think they went nowhere else
The Indus empires
The Phoenicians
The Roman's
On and on
Win or lose nature abhors a vacuum.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 3:31 pm to rebeloke
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If Islam is a peaceful religion, then why isn’t there peace in the Middle East?
There is a really easy joke to make here but I’m gonna take the high road
The issue is too much money and not enough iq to go around
Once in a generation you’ll get an Arab leader who realizes that all they have and all they’ll ever have is oil wealth and to keep the different tribes from tearing each other apart due to jealous you have to resort to some kind of benevolent dictator led socialism but then that winds them up in the crosshairs of the state department ie gadaffi, saddam
You see this same dynamic when one redneck or nfl player from the hood gets a lot of money. Everybody that they’ve known ends up working against them to try to get a piece
Posted on 10/13/26 at 3:34 pm to sta4ever
Tell that to Thomas Jefferson. 
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