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re: I Truly Like What Kelly is Building in the NIL era
Posted on 7/31/25 at 5:16 pm to wrongRob
Posted on 7/31/25 at 5:16 pm to wrongRob
I hope you're right. I get we've often been outmanned, but we've looked really unprepared in some big games in the past few years. We should have beaten USC last year in the opener for sure. I want Kelly to succeed. I hope this is the year. 
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Posted on 7/31/25 at 5:42 pm to coolpapaboze
quote:Me too, it doesn't happen much. <-- wrongRob
I hope you're right.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 5:47 pm to coolpapaboze
Talent wise the USC game was the one they should have won.Had they not stopped the clock in the red zone late in that game LSU probably win.It takes time to acquire the O and D line talent to compete week in and week out in the SEC.Thats a fact.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 5:57 pm to Sailin Tiger
LSU will always be an easy sell. BK on the other hand…idk
Posted on 7/31/25 at 6:26 pm to lsupride87
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meh We have had 4 separate head coaches this millennium and still have won 9 or more games 18/25 seasons Sure seems to be a well oiled machine regardless of operators Maybe it would be more accurate to say “LSU is a machine that runs itself as long as you have someone that doesn’t go full dumbass and forget to plug it in”
The moment O took his hand off the wheel, we went from a record-setting title winner to .500 for two seasons.
When the game passed Miles by and he refused to adjust, we began a steady downhill progression from double digit wins to 8 or 9 with a Bowl and a likely losing season in 2016 if he and Cam hadn’t been canned when they were.
There is no such thing as a program being a perpetually running machine in 2025. With the TV money that is available to SEC and Big 10 programs to pay for staff and the NIL and transfer portal giving players complete flexibility, no program can operate at a high level without strong leadership and alignment across the athletic department. If any team slips a little, there are just too many others with the necessary resources to just coast.
If you make a big mistake with a hire or lose a step, you’re LSU 2020-21 or Auburn for the last 5 years. That’s the reality of P4 college football today.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 6:27 pm to PUB
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Cannot begin to spell Special teams.
Are you serious? Ramos has bailed them out for years now when they hit the red zone and can’t score TDs.
There were multiple kickoffs returned for TDs last season alone. You might be only remembering 2022. That was special teams failures after failures.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 6:35 pm to Soft_Parade
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Have to break the cycle of having to replace someone who didn't work out vs. someone who left for a better job.
The defensive purge was a year and a half ago. Since then, Bo Davis left for an NFL job. Denbrock left for another P4 OC job, but ND is close to home for him and they will let him run his preferred offense. That last bit likely had a lot to do with it based on what you see him running at ND vs here. He was never going to be allowed to run that full system here.
I believe a huge part of the reason Sloan was retained was continuity. Kelly completely purged the defensive side of the ball and rightly so. I can understand why he was hesitant to do the same thing on offense rather than keep some continuity on one side of the ball.
Again, we’ll see how it works this season. If Sloan takes a step forward and Atkins helps the run game (not trivial considering both of our primary offensive coaches are a QB and WR coach and have always been more focused on passing), then this could be a really potent offense.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 6:47 pm to High Life
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Im an lsu fan. You're a Brian Kelly fan. Get his dong out your mouth
frick off, shithead
Coaches come and go. I hope anyone who coaches our football team has success, but my loyalty is to NO coach, not even Nick fricking Saban. You are a lazy bastard throwing that around with nothing to back it up. You obviously know nothing about this program’s history. If LSU was such a fricking machine, the 90s wouldn’t have happened. DiNardo wouldn’t have collapsed after seemingly righting the ship.
Or maybe your casual fandom starts with Saban. Even then, Miles wouldn’t have descended into mediocrity just because he got too stubborn to change. If we were such a fricking machine, O ceasing to give a shite wouldn’t have caused 2 .500 seasons and 1/3 of the fricking roster to leave.
fricking casual as hell nonsense. It’s always been nonsense, but it’s even worse today with all of the SEC and Big 10 having the TV money that they do and the top programs in each spending huge sums on NIL. Every mistake is magnified because there are always programs ready and waiting to take your spot.
Remember when Auburn was almost as reliably good as we were and also jumped up for a title win, a title shot, and an undefeated season where they should have gotten a shot? Where are they today? One bad hire (possibly 2) was all that it took. NO program is a machine today. Not even Bama, Texas and OSU.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 8:01 pm to SidewalkTiger
quote:he 10000% said it word for word earlier on in his tenure fwiw. You can find it if you want to do the legworkquote:
He said judge him in year 3.
I can't find where BK ever actually said this
He didn’t have the horses like he expected I suppose but he will this season
Posted on 7/31/25 at 8:29 pm to Sailin Tiger
Doesn't matter. All that crap can fall apart in 6 months. Look at O.
Roster could be decimated. Program can go into a funk like that.
Roster could be decimated. Program can go into a funk like that.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 9:14 pm to Who_Dat_Tiger
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he 10000% said it word for word earlier on in his tenure fwiw. You can find it if you want to do the legwork
I've never been able to find it and no one has ever been able to provide a link.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 11:12 pm to coolpapaboze
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It's kind of a weird irony that the one part of his job he's still yet to prove is the coaching part.
It really all comes down to having the best players on the field at the end of the day.
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"It's not about the X's and O's, it's about the Jimmys and the Joes"
- DKR allegedly
Posted on 7/31/25 at 11:25 pm to High Life
quote:Please explain this in the context of 5-5 and 6-7
LSU is a machine that runs itself
Posted on 7/31/25 at 11:30 pm to Morpheus
quote:O didn’t exactly have that instilled by 2019. We just had superior players led by best-in-class coaches. That’s what decides whether LSU wins a title under Kelly, not psychology
You can have all the talent but can he instill the winning championships is a prerequisite at LSU mindset in the players.
Related, I don’t know if it’s ultimately a good thing but the current team’s culture is insanely boring compared to the outright lawlessness of some Miles/O seasons
This post was edited on 7/31/25 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 8/1/25 at 2:55 pm to misey94
Welcome to modern football. It’s a little bit of a different game nowadays dumbass
Posted on 8/1/25 at 3:20 pm to Sailin Tiger
Same here
Posted on 8/1/25 at 4:10 pm to High Life
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LSU is a machine that runs itself
Then why is Orgeron on 30a shagging plastic gilfs instead of running fall camp?
Posted on 8/1/25 at 5:55 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
Because he was witch hunt by Ryan Clark and Woody.
Posted on 8/1/25 at 6:54 pm to Sailin Tiger
O was not a better game day coach than Kelly but he was the head coach for the greatest team in NCAA history! He had Aranda, Brady, Ensminger and Burrow. Luck played a huge role in that team coming together. Hopefully Kelly will have the coaching acumen to get the right coaches in place and let them do their job. He's doing a great job so far of putting the pieces together, come on coach, you can do this. Hope springs eternal!
Posted on 8/1/25 at 7:56 pm to Ponchy Tiger
quote:I detest it.
I don’t like the one year rent a players
But I detest getting old too - nothing I can do about it but make the best of it while it lasts.
Doesn't make me any less sorrowful for the old times.
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