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I truly don’t understand why Welch doesn’t see the field
Posted on 9/25/23 at 9:29 am
Posted on 9/25/23 at 9:29 am
Welch is a guy that shined in spring and doesn’t even get chances to see the field when the secondary struggles. I don’t get why guys like Duce chestnut when it’s clear he doesn’t have the size or athleticism to play cb in the sec is still rotating in the game and getting burned for long plays. Jus like Harris is finally getting some run, Welch needs to at least but getting all the reps Duce and sage Ryan get
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Posted on 9/25/23 at 9:31 am to Cd104444
He's probably best in man to man coverage and we run a frick ton of zone.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 9:33 am to Spelt it rong
Probably the same reason coaches didn’t start Denver against FSU
Posted on 9/25/23 at 9:38 am to Cd104444
we need to start plugging in these younger guys and give them experience, because it can't get much worse.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 9:40 am to Cd104444
when les first got here, it took a season or two for him to figure out play the stud freshman, it helps recruiting, and they can learn on the go.
give kelly a little time to figure out the same
give kelly a little time to figure out the same
Posted on 9/25/23 at 9:43 am to Cd104444
I feel the same way about Wiggins
Posted on 9/25/23 at 9:45 am to BigEdLSU
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He's probably best in man to man coverage and we run a frick ton of zone.
And we're not great or even good at right now so why not make changes? Or, why not scheme to the current players' strengths? Tired of seeing SR, DC, MB, and Zy get burned every deep pass or just lose their man in coverage. We don't have much to lose it seems. I want to see Stamps and Welch more.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 9:46 am to Spelt it rong
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He's probably best in man to man coverage and we run a frick ton of zone.
And zone is working great.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 9:47 am to DBeaux225
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I feel the same way about Wiggins
The DL is deep and Wiggins has been beat out by Womack and Shand. He also has never really flashed even in mop up duty against bad teams.
Since our secondary sucks, I'd love to see Welch, Stamps, Toviano, and 21 (I'm blanking on his name) should get some PT to see what they can do. If that means you need to call simpler coverages, then do so.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 9:50 am to BigEdLSU
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it took a season or two for him to figure out play the stud freshman, it helps recruiting, and they can learn on the go.
This isn’t Kelly’s issue. He leaned heavily on Taylor, Campbell and jones last year in critical positions.
This year he’s doing it with Jackson and Weeks.
This whole bs around Kelly doesn’t play freshman is bullshite.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 9:56 am to Cd104444
Sometimes I wonder if he is playing to the Transfer Portal a little too much. The guys who seem to be underperforming, with young guys nipping at their heels, are transfers. It would be a bad look to attract transfers, just to have them sit behind freshmen/soph players.
Not saying it's the right philosophy, but I wonder if it has something to do with it.
Not saying it's the right philosophy, but I wonder if it has something to do with it.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 9:58 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Since our secondary sucks, I'd love to see Welch, Stamps, Toviano, and 21 (I'm blanking on his name) should get some PT to see what they can do. If that means you need to call simpler coverages, then do so
No, no. House needs the guys in there is quasi-understand his zone defense. He's much more comfortable watching those guys get beat than changing his approach (which isn't working) and getting other guys on the field. That way he can blame it on guys not understanding the system rather than his poor coaching.
Good coaches mold their approach to fit the talent. Bad coaches keep trying to force guys to do something they aren't capable of doing. I remember Aranda was a 3-4 guy coming in to 2016. After about 5 plays of watching Arden Key try to drop in coverage he realized he had 4-3 personnel and changed his approach accordingly.
Yes, this isn't the most talented DB group LSU has ever had. But it is House's job to try to find the approach that best fits what he has...even if that means the group won't be perfect. The good news is LSU currently has the best offense in the SEC. So no one is asking the defense to be perfect. Just good enough to keep the opponent under 30. That seems like a reasonable goal.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:00 am to Cd104444
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I truly don’t understand why Welch doesn’t see the field
too slow to play CB
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:02 am to Cd104444
Maybe glasses would help.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:09 am to Spelt it rong
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He's probably best in man to man coverage and we run a frick ton of zone.
I feel like I keep reading this about different players.
Maybe we should start playing more man coverage if all of our DBs are better at it?
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:14 am to Cd104444
Welch is out of here in the offseason if he continues to sit on the sidelines while the current DBs constantly get torched every Saturday... and I honeslty wouldnt blame him for leaving.
...and in 2024 we will have same depth/experience problem at CB.
...and in 2024 we will have same depth/experience problem at CB.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:18 am to Cd104444
Stamps is the guy that has the skill to be a top notch CB but I haven’t seen him in much. Yaites has been getting some time and has been around the football when he is in. It seems like they are trying to work the young guys in but if Stamps is the player they say he is then he needs to play instead of Zy.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:25 am to Cd104444
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I truly don’t understand why Welch doesn’t see the field
It’s very easy to understand. The coaches, who see these guys every day in practice, think we are better with him on the bench.
A lot of fans suffer from a delusion that what they don’t see didn’t happen. The amount of practice time these coaches have seen probably amounts to 50 games worth. Plus the coaches know what they’re looking at, while we don’t.
Fans will often point to talented players who eventually see action and excel, and they say, “We were calling for this guy weeks ago. See? We were right.” But the coaches saw the talent before even we did. And they wanted those players in the game more than we did. If they didn’t put him in it was either because he was hurt or he didn’t know the plays. In other words, you were not right. You were wrong. Had they put him in earlier we would have done worse.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:45 am to Penrod
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It’s very easy to understand. The coaches, who see these guys every day in practice, think we are better with him on the bench.
A lot of fans suffer from a delusion that what they don’t see didn’t happen. The amount of practice time these coaches have seen probably amounts to 50 games worth. Plus the coaches know what they’re looking at, while we don’t.
Fans will often point to talented players who eventually see action and excel, and they say, “We were calling for this guy weeks ago. See? We were right.” But the coaches saw the talent before even we did. And they wanted those players in the game more than we did. If they didn’t put him in it was either because he was hurt or he didn’t know the plays. In other words, you were not right. You were wrong. Had they put him in earlier we would have done worse.
This is a novel approach, trysting the coaches who watch them practice all year long.
Do you think that works better than looking at the high school rankings? Is it better than reading 24/7? Do you believe they know more than Moscona?
;-)
Btw, I agree with you. There are reasons some guys play before others and they are good reasons. But tgere is also a reluctance to play younger players because of their propensity to make mental mistakes. Deciding exactly what to do and when not to do it separates the top coaches from the ok coaches.
If the older guys don’t improve, let’s hope some younger guys step up fast, if it will be a long season.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:47 am to doubleb
The backups are always better, duh.
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