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Posted on 4/22/19 at 1:39 pm to Lester Earl
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By his own admission he failed 10 drug tests and “ lost count after that”
None to the NCAA though. He would have been able to play at bama.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 1:48 pm to Lester Earl
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How do these things put LSU at a disadvantage compared to other schools?
According to some, softball's practice time was reduced this season as a result
Disadvantage.
I highly doubt Saban is shooing unscheduled recruits out of practice
Disadvantage.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 1:53 pm to LouBega
They drug tested our basketball team the day after the Kentucky win. And, someone please verify this, but they may have done the same after the Tennessee win. That is complete and utter bullshite. There’s a difference between enforcing the rules and going out of your way to catch someone breaking them.
Like I’ve said before, we need people who, rather than acting in an almost rogue capacity, are willing to work with our coaches.
Like I’ve said before, we need people who, rather than acting in an almost rogue capacity, are willing to work with our coaches.
This post was edited on 4/22/19 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 4/22/19 at 1:55 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
Definitely trolling lol! It is not necessary to overdue it when nobody else is. We dont want a renegade program, but we do want to be on equal term with the competition. When people are let go or reassigned you'll see that people are not just making stuff up. Tim Williams admittedly failed over 20 drug test at Alabama and never missed a game. Let that sink in!
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:06 pm to Lester Earl
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How do these things put LSU at a disadvantage compared to other schools?
Come on don’t be this obtuse, if we suspend or kick players off the team for multiple drug test violations and other schools don’t how is that nor a competitive disadvantage?
This post was edited on 4/22/19 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:27 pm to H-Town Tiger
Lester, I'll just leave it to an expert to explain things to you re LSU's compliance dept: It took Saban, said expert, no?? less than a year to see what was going on and he had Bo transferred to the ticket office. Safe to assume he knows what / who is detrimental to a football program.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:33 pm to H-Town Tiger
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if we suspend or kick players off the team for multiple drug test violations and other schools don’t how is that nor a competitive disadvantage?
Like who?
Les miles kicked mathieu off the team. Even then he had failed 10+ drug tests lol
1 there is not enough information about failed tests provided by the university to make this distinction. Most fail multiple before it’s even an issue
2 you don’t follow any other school like you do LSU. You don’t really know what other schools get away with. Then refer back to #1, and you really really don’t know.
3 fans still confuse criminal arrest & university discipline vs ncaa misconduct & their mandated penalties
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:35 pm to StTiger
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According to some, softball's practice time was reduced this season as a result
Disadvantage.
Link to that?
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:40 pm to LouBega
quote:Facts not in evidence!
The LSU compliance dept is not out to get lsu.
The compliance dept should be about education. If an accidental breach like the extra BYU-LSU headset, or a 16 min photo session as opposed to 15mins is ID'd, compliance should step in, educate, and correct. Turning in minor accidental violations occurring because Compliance has done a poor job with education is counterproductive and should not routinely happen.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:50 pm to Lester Earl
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Link to that?
I guess you need a link to believe that Moses parted the Red Sea and that Jesus rose from the dead on Easter Sunday. Also your claim that Miles kick Mathieu off the team is just semantics on your part, yes Miles did the deed, but he was forced too by the compliance dept you are defending to do so.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:52 pm to Lester Earl
There is plenty instances to be critical of compliance, but IMO, the Mathieu situation is not among them.
By the time he was kicked off the team, it was less about the many failed drug tests as it was direct, repeat insubordination and the threat of mutiny ever present in those such situations.
Les had no choice but to boot him from the team. Any other attempt to handle it would have undermined the rules for everyone and established that if you’re good enough, the same rules don’t apply to you.
That in turn can lead to unnecessary animosity among players and the kind of locker room that can make a great team very average.
He had probably more chances than he should’ve been given, at least assuming the reports of 10+ failed tests are true. No player is so impactful it’s worth having him at the expense of a divided locker room.
By the time he was kicked off the team, it was less about the many failed drug tests as it was direct, repeat insubordination and the threat of mutiny ever present in those such situations.
Les had no choice but to boot him from the team. Any other attempt to handle it would have undermined the rules for everyone and established that if you’re good enough, the same rules don’t apply to you.
That in turn can lead to unnecessary animosity among players and the kind of locker room that can make a great team very average.
He had probably more chances than he should’ve been given, at least assuming the reports of 10+ failed tests are true. No player is so impactful it’s worth having him at the expense of a divided locker room.
This post was edited on 4/22/19 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:54 pm to USMCTIGER1970
Nope, I’m good at reading between the lines. I have a hard time believing compliance would cut down on practice time if it wasn’t mandated. And I highly doubt a coach would accept that otherwise mm
That would go against the idea that they are not lenient. Cool
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Also your claim that Miles kick Mathieu off the team is just semantics on your part, yes Miles did the deed, but he was forced too by the compliance dept you are defending to do so.
That would go against the idea that they are not lenient. Cool
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:56 pm to Philippines4LSU
All I’ve ever heard from players that played with TM7 is what a great leader and team mate he was, so I don’t think that would be an issue. Sounds good in theory but if we’re to believe reports other programs in the SEC are not suspending/dismissing players of that caliber for nothing more than failed drug tests
Posted on 4/22/19 at 3:01 pm to Lester Earl
Choose to believe whatever you want, though I don't think you believe 99% of what you post LOL! The softball thing is 100% real.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 3:04 pm to LouBega
LSU Compliance is LSU’s biggest rival. What you are talking about. Bahnsen and Segar constantly hamstring LSU.. we just want LSU’s Compliance to be comparable to the programs LSU competes with I.e. Bama, Clemson, texas etc
Posted on 4/22/19 at 3:05 pm to Philippines4LSU
Tim Williams admittedly failed over 20 at Bama and didn't miss 1 game!! It was all about compliance letting Les know that they ran the show. It cheated us fans out of another NC shot.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 3:10 pm to Lester Earl
quote:my auto-reply for you from now on.....
Lester Earl
Posted on 4/22/19 at 3:12 pm to USMCTIGER1970
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Jesus rose from the dead on Easter Sunday
Well we don’t know that to be true. That’s just the day chose to celebrate that event. But we get what you are saying.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 3:14 pm to H-Town Tiger
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other programs in the SEC are not suspending/dismissing players of that caliber for nothing more than failed drug tests
I get that argument totally. This was almost a decade ago though, and attitudes were different then.
Miles made it personal, and Mathieu continuing to fail after that put Miles in a tough spot. He needed to keep control of the rest of the team and suspect he feared he could lose control (no pun intended) of the team by continuing to enable Mathieu.
Ultimately, Les might’ve saved that young man’s life and was by all accounts the driving force behind him making the changes in life that he had to make to enable him to have any pro career, much less such a productive one.
Les did what was best for Tyrann and for the team. Long term, the higher priority line items in that decision panned out as intended.
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