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re: I don't like Alleva either

Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:13 am to
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:13 am to
Your full of shite. Is this joe?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93958 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:18 am to
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But what in the world makes yall think he handled this situation the wrong way?

His interview after the win vs Yale was inexcusable...
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Following the first-round game from Jacksonville, LSU AD Joe Alleva spoke with college basketball insider Jeff Goodman of Stadium regarding the status of Wade.

“I don’t know how deep this goes,” Alleva said following LSU’s victory over Yale. “That’s the problem, and Will’s refused to talk to us. That’s the hardest part for me.”

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“I wish he’d come in and just tell the truth. Just tell me what went on,” Alleva said. “I can handle the truth even if it’s bad.”

Why the frick is he talking about this shite right after LSU won a tournament game? This completely took all of the focus off of the team and it was totally uncalled for.

I agreed with the initial suspension in order to give LSU time to investigate. But, if they couldn't find anything before the NCAA tourney come out and release a statement that LSU won't run it's athletic programs based on an unsubstantiated media report.

Then, when he pulled that shite after the Yale win, I was completely against anything that slimy fricker does. He's a piece of shite.
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4623 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:30 am to
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It's amazing people are still stupid enough to not understand why suspending him never should have happened in the first place based on yahoo targeted attacks based on "leaks" from an on-going FB trial.


I believe the reason he was suspended was because his boss(es) asked him to attend a meeting and give context to what was leaked and he refused the meeting. Regardless of whether the NCAA was in attendance, the FBI was in attendance or the KGB was in attendance, when Will Wade refused the meeting he left his boss(es) no choice.

Nobody disagrees Will Wade had the right to shun the meeting (and, in fact, it may have been the legally prudent thing to do), but it doesn't change the responsibility his boss(es) have to maintain control over their employees. When your boss summons you to a meeting - You go.

That being said, I hope Will Wade survives as our coach (I really like him) and I hope Joe Alleva is fired before noon today (and that has nothing to do with this specific incident). I dislike Alleva on so many other more important issues.
Posted by lsufanz
NOLA
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:32 am to
Stopped reading at “But”
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:32 am to
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I believe the reason he was suspended was because his boss(es) asked him to attend a meeting and give context to what was leaked and he refused the meeting. Regardless of whether the NCAA was in attendance, the FBI was in attendance or the KGB was in attendance, when Will Wade refused the meeting he left his boss(es) no choice.


Then perhaps the retard AD should not even call for the meeting. Or make that call public. Or do any of the other stupid shite that they've done the last month.
Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
6202 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:33 am to
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If the situation you want ("Alleva should've reinstated Wade") happened to any other school, you would be shitting on that school.



You mean like Arizona and Sean Miller, or Bill Self and Kansas, Duke and Zion Williamson, Auburn, and the other 50 programs implicated in the same investigation? All those schools issued a statement of concern and otherwise took no action. Only LSU suspended its coach. Only the LSU AD all but called his coach a cheater publicly and only LSU invited the NCAA to sit in on an internal investigation. You guys come out of the woodwork weeks after the fact with the same talking points and act like you're offering an original thought.

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 if WW was involved in paying players


You should've stopped there. IF Wade violated rules he'll have to face the consequences. But we're still at IF and some of you assholes have him convicted, support the LSU admin prematurely and publicly trashing his reputation, and letting this fester for over a month. All you have to do is look at how every other AD has handled the same situation and you'll see how badly JA and FKA bungled this.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:39 am to
“ he got this one right”

Will coached LSU basketball to the SEC championship and to a third seed in the NCAA tournament. I see no reason and I believe the NCAA has demonstrated in the past that there is no reason to hold onto some believe that our sanctions, if there any, will be reduced because our HC was suspended before the last regular season game of the year.

Furthermore, the suspension actually blew up the story both in Louisiana and nationally at a time when the story otherwise would have been a SEC title. Then we have the embarrassment of the fan reaction going national to the LSU A.D. walking out onto LSU’s home court. Did LSU and Joe have no clue as to what might go on with his appearance. I realize there was no good time to announce the suspension if LSU felt that they had to do it, but right before they play a game and you’re going to cut down the nets for an SEC championship? Talk about shoot yourself in the foot.
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:39 am to
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Regardless if Wade is guilty or not, we all knew of the wiretap last October and in the conversation transcripts that were released, it sounded like something that needed thorough investigation. Did that happen? No. That's on Alleva. All of the existing players and their parents should have been interviewed right then and there and sources of the leak should have been tracked down to try and get any information related to possible recruiting issues, etc. It took another transcript leak before the last regular season game of the season for LSU to suddenly get concerned. That's poor due diligence. And Alleva making some of these boneheaded comments during the tourney was unprofessional and completely unnecessary.


Boom.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12300 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:44 am to
The Rant cannot get its tiny brain to accept this uncomfortable fact which is inconsistent with their narrative. Alleva is a tool. But even a stopped clock is right twice a day. He got this one basically right this time.
Posted by Skidaddy
Where I am
Member since Feb 2009
366 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:52 am to
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Regardless if Wade is guilty or not, we all knew of the wiretap last October and in the conversation transcripts that were released, it sounded like something that needed thorough investigation. Did that happen? No. That's on Alleva.


This has been my question all along. Why wasn't a meeting held in October with Coach Wade when this first came out ? Why wasn't an investigation launched right then by LSU to find out just what had transpired ? This whole situation has been a debacle from the get go. That is on LSU and the administration !!
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18194 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:04 am to
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You have no clue if he's actually on tape or what he actually said.
are you honestly saying the tape doesn't exist? Or that Wade's words were wrongly transcribed? Or the tape was doctored? Good god.

If any of that were the case, Wade would've been SCREAMING from Day 1 about it. But Wade is silent, which tells me that he knows those words are accurate, and he's now trying to deal with the aftermath.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
66573 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:06 am to
He had no reason to constantly comment on the situation, basically alluding Wade was guilty.

It’s just a bad look. He also didn’t need to take action the way he did, which further made LSU look bad.

He is a terrible person who caves to the slightest bit of media pressure. He should have supported his coach through it until at least his trial. You’d think he’d have learned from Duke, but he is too smug to care about ruining careers.

He should not be representing LSU, ever.
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 10:09 am
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:07 am to
“ that is on LSU and the administration”

Ultimately, everything that goes on at LSU is on LSU and it’s administration. They are the ones who did the search, the vetting, and the hiring.

Did LSU and Coach Wade I have a meeting about this in October? I have seen some posting here which indicated some type of meeting or discussion went on.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
16025 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:15 am to
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you're just looking for ways to shite on Alleva, fine, shite on him for hiring a coach that commits violations immediately after being hired - or is at least careless about it.


Exactly. Joe biggest fault in this particular instance was hiring a coach that at a minimum is so careless on the phone to start such an issue
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6069 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:15 am to
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Facts, bitch. Face them


Tells someone he presented facts and to face them when he only stated opinions.

Jane, you ignorant slut.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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84488 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:17 am to
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are you honestly saying the tape doesn't exist? Or that Wade's words were wrongly transcribed? Or the tape was doctored? Good god.


I'm honestly saying you don't have a fricking clue who or what is on them. SO until you have actually heard the tapes for yourself, stop with your bullshite. You won't though, because you're a fricking clown.

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But Wade is silent, which tells me that he knows those words are accurate, and he's now trying to deal with the aftermath.


It could also tell you he isn't a moron, but I know that will be impossible for you to relate to.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29243 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:26 am to
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I'm honestly saying you don't have a fricking clue who or what is on them. SO until you have actually heard the tapes for yourself, stop with your bullshite. You won't though, because you're a fricking clown.




Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9757 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:41 am to
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So in the future, if another SEC head coach is on tape saying what Wade said, then this board should defend him.

Actually, if another SEC coach faces the exact same situation, this board should demand he be suspended immediately since that was the punishment that the SEC and national media all said was appropriate for LSU. And if that coach isn’t punished immediately, it will confirm that LSU handled this poorly.

Why would we hope that another program/coach is treated better than us?
Posted by TBoy@LSU
Member since Sep 2012
5517 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:56 am to
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But what in the world makes yall think he handled this situation the wrong way?


A, just like in the Duke Lacrosse scandal he rushed to judgment pandering to the NCAA sports media etc. B, once he made the poor decision he and his cronies continued to mouth off about it thereby keeping a negative story about LSU constantly in the news. You made your poor decision, now STFU about it.
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 10:57 am
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:58 am to
When you started this thread...

Were you in the mood to argue with 347 people?
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