re: How tone deaf is Joe Alleva when it comes to this corporate tailgating company?

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LSU fans take a back seat to no one when it comes their ability to throw a tailgating party but the glory days of LSU tailgating, when tens of thousands of people used to show up on campus just to tailgate with no intention of setting foot in the stadium, are over.

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Lol there are going to be 120000+ on campus for Bama and Georgia this year and less than 100000 are going to go in the stadium

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Lol there are going to be 120000+ on campus for Bama and Georgia this year and less than 100000 are going to go in the stadium

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Lol there are going to be 120000+ on campus for Bama and Georgia this year and less than 100000 are going to go in the stadium

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Lol. Those days are gone. It hasn’t been like that in about 5 years. Even for the big games. The pay per game parking between Highland and Nicholson has put an end to all of that. Not to mention that they have been shutting down access before noon for a 6 or 7pm game so unless you want to park on Perkins it’s not worth it. I get why people are staying home.

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This guy just doesn’t get it.

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I think it's the opposite.

He's screwed up the experience already for the average fan, who can no longer afford to go. And the superfans are pissed off at him because of his prior decisions.

The only steady cash machine he has left is the corporations.

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12,14,and 16 Bama were like this

In 14 my parents stayed at the tailgate by the Indian mounds. Said outside stadium was full of people

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2012 was a madhouse. 14 and 16 we didn’t even have 100k in the fricking building let alone an extra 20k outside the stadium. That’s just folk lore stuff now. I’m telling you it hasn’t happened since the paid parking per game stuff. The walk from the Ag lot to Nicholson down South Stadium used to be a site. Now you have a few big groups but it’s quite sad compared to say 2012. People are finding better ways to spend their money.

Your post is well thought out, but understand that in many cases where you indicate it is all about making more money, maybe you should understand that in some ways it is more about regulating bad behavior.

Traffic cops enforcing parking is probably because folks were coming out and claiming way too much space, with way to many trailers that deprived their fellow die hard fan a place to park and enjoy their day as well.

You dont like rap music in the stadium, but many tailgates are playing rap music obnoxiously loud outside the stadium, maybe that is what admin thinks the fans want. Of course no one would dare turn down the tunes out of respect for the more laid back tailgate nearby.

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Inside the Stadium they see huge electronic replay boards that don’t even use the entire screen. Instead, they have stationary, static images of Powerade, Coca-Cola and McDonald’s on them. Why the school got replay boards this big only to not use the entire screen or just create stationary billboards on either side of the huge replay board, we’ll never know. But we do know they’re using something ostensibly for fan enjoyment to-again-monetize and cash in on them.

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You dont want them selling advertising, but you dont want them getting money from the fans. Yet you want more amenities for the athletes and fans.

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But we’ve renewed for the final time. Joe Alleva, F. King and Munsonruther (whomever he is) have proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that their focus is monetizing a culture we created at all costs. What the average fan wants or needs they could give three shits about.

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The culture you created departs the stadium at half time in SEC contests, and refused to support a team, the coach or their efforts unless we beat Alabama.

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The culture you created departs the stadium at half time in SEC contests, and refused to support a team, the coach or their efforts unless we beat Alabama.

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This honestly didn't really become as big of a thing until 2012, which is when the biggest parking and tailgating changes were made. An argument could be made that these changes are what turned the "leaving at halftime" from a niche thing by a small percentage of fans to an unignorable flood tide. I've been going to games since the mid 90's, so I remember 2012 as being the year that everything from tailgating, to in-stadium atmosphere, to parking became noticeably less enjoyable.

I remember the parking free-for-all days, when the only reserved lots were the ones adjacent to the stadium. My dad and I used to park along Nicholson near the intersection with Nicholson Ext. I remember 2007 as being the first time we ever used a parking pass, when we borrowed someone's for the Virginia Tech game. This was the first time the post-game traffic was really exceptional. Due to the increased cops directing traffic, it took us 4 hours to get home (a 30 minute drive normally). 3 of those hours were stuck inside of the parking lot off of Skip Bertman Drive.

The more parking restrictions, tailgating restrictions, and police that were added, the worse the traffic got. New construction and restrictions eliminated literally tens of thousands of spots. By pushing parking further and further out, it made the traffic worse and worse. Most of the police hired to "direct" traffic did nothing of the sort. All they would do is park their cars in a travel lane, block off side streets for no reason, and make it all worse.

I gaurantee you, if they were to remove all tailgating and parking restrictions, only hand out parking passes for the lots closest to the stadium (401, 101, 402, 404, 107, 103, 104, 201, 107, 109, 301, 304, 305, and 106) and have zero officers directing traffic, no contra-flow, nothing for the first home SEC game next season you will see the largest campus crowd and the best traffic post-game we've seen in years.

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14 and 16 we didn’t even have 100k in the fricking building

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This is not true

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The walk from the Ag lot to Nicholson down South Stadium used to be a site. Now you have a few big groups but it’s quite sad compared to say 2012. People are finding better ways to spend their money.

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You are over hyping the downfall of the LSU gameday

How do you know those people didn't relocate their tailgate somewhere else?

On a normal gameday, I walk through TD Village to parade grounds, tailgate there for most of the day and then go to another tailgate either by Indian Mounds or Lockett
For a big game there are no less people now than there were 5-10 years ago

I know plenty of people who have given up there season tickets and parking passes but for Bama or another big game they are at the game and tailgating before.

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I'm hearing Joe is in intense negotiations with Hamas and Al Qaeda over who is going to get the "official terrorist organization of LSU football" title.

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On what criteria did he shortlist Hamas and Al Qaeda. Why is he not considering ISIS, Hezbollah, Muslim Brotherhood.

Seriously....this is a good one

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Alleva was brought in to specifically monetize the LSU community surrounding sports....just like he did at Duke.

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If we're being honest with ourselves, this corporatization/monetization of LSU sports started with Skip at the helm. Alleva has just continued the arc. It was an easier pill to swallow for some when the pill was being administered by a living LSU legend.

Exactly.

Alleva:
-Outsider with no connection to LSU
-at the center Duke lacrosse catastrophe

Skip:
-LSU coaching legend
-5 time national champ

Who do you think fans would rather hear less-than-stellar news from?