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re: How much does a win against Miami change attitudes here?
Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:11 am to dukke v
Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:11 am to dukke v
It is all about context. He went 9-4 in the weakest and most terrible SEC in decades. Every SEC team he beat went out and got better, as to head coach, talent, or both. And he went 9-4 with a fifth year QB, ridiculously talented RB, and depth at key positions. This year is not only a tougher schedule, but it will be a new QB, shallow RB depth, shallow CB depth, and a new OC. What else should fans reasonably expect?
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:14 am to Powerman
It would take a damn near perfect season to satisfy the people on this board.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:18 am to Dave England
We did not know how bad the SEC was at the start of the year... is the schedule O's fault??? It's not his fault teams fired their coaches is it???? You play who is put in front of you.... did we lose to a team with a losing record??? No.... in the regular season the best team Bama beat was LSU....
Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:34 am to dukke v
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We did not know how bad the SEC was at the start of the year
Ok...? Teams are judged at the end of the season, not the beginning. I'm not sure of your point.
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did we lose to a team with a losing record???
What a standard of excellence.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:53 am to Powerman
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Many teams have excelled all around the country with first year starters at QB.
quote:You do realize that the national championship game, second half, had TWO TRUE FRESHMEN AT QB??? And another team in the playoff (Clemson) had a first year starter at QB.
And many teams haven't.
Do you have a statistical breakdown on the matter? If not kindly shut the frick up
I created list a year or so ago just from memory, and not from any research. If I did any research, this list would be much longer.
Just recently:
Johnny Manziel
Jameis Winston
Greg McElroy
AJ McCarron
Blake Sims
Jake Coker
Brad Kaaya
Jalen Hurts
Tua
JaMarcus Russell
Chase McSorley
Cam Newton
Baker Mayfield
DeSean Watson
Kelly Bryant
Aaron Murray
Jake Fromm
Shane Buechele
Brett Hundley
Josh Rosen
Jake Browning
JT Barrett
Cardale Jones
Sam Darnold
DeShone Kizer
Dak Prescott
Colt McCoy
Mason Rudolph
Josh Jackson
and many, many, many others. Those LITERALLY are off the top of my head in two minutes.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 10:00 am
Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:58 am to atltiger6487
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I created list a year or so ago just from memory, and not from any research. If I did any research, this list would be much longer.
You act like all of these guys were freshman
Some were juniors or seniors or even 5th year seniors before their first season starting.
Terrible list is terrible.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:01 am to Powerman
quote:now you're moving the goalposts.
You act like all of these guys were freshman
Some were juniors or seniors or even 5th year seniors before their first season starting.
Terrible list is terrible.
But many on that list were freshmen.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:01 am to dukke v
You can only beat the teams on the schedule
So when you only play 6 teams with winning records
Beat more than 2 of them to show you’re a good team
So when you only play 6 teams with winning records
Beat more than 2 of them to show you’re a good team
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:08 am to SammyTiger
the HATERS will hate, the facts will matter very little.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:12 am to Powerman
It’s going to take 10-2 or better next season for fan morale to improve.
It’s not too much to ask or expect after firing Les to have one season with better results than the guy we fired.
It’s not too much to ask or expect after firing Les to have one season with better results than the guy we fired.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:17 am to Powerman
So we hired O just to beat Miami in 2018? Well if that was the case and he beats them, mission accomplished I guess.
Pass this along to O: beat Bama. It's that simple. We're not going to allow you to create a false milestone so that when you pass it you can fool us into thinking you accomplished something. Beat Bama. Period.
Pass this along to O: beat Bama. It's that simple. We're not going to allow you to create a false milestone so that when you pass it you can fool us into thinking you accomplished something. Beat Bama. Period.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:22 am to Powerman
A win has zero effect....only concerned with Bama and other SEC teams 
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:23 am to rbdallas
The facts are we want 9-4 and that’s not good.
The facts are we lost
To a sunbelt team and a had a losing record against teams over .500
Stop acting like people are “hating” for not reason
The facts are we lost
To a sunbelt team and a had a losing record against teams over .500
Stop acting like people are “hating” for not reason
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:27 am to Powerman
quote:we only played one of them, and lost by 14.
Yeah a down sec that had 2 teams playing for the national title
quote:you do realize you can't play the "we beat team x, who beat team y, who beat team z, so we're as good as team z" game. It's a silly argument.
both of which lost to another team in the sec west that lost to us.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 10:28 am
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:37 am to Dave England
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Every SEC team he beat went out and got better, as to head coach, talent, or both.
Ole Miss got better?
is Chad Morris a better coach than Bielema? Resume says not
is Morehead equal to or better Mullen? Nobody knows, Mullen is damn good
How did Auburn get better?
How is Bama going to be better? Better QB but lost almost all of their defense and had their worst recruiting class in 9 years.
Did Georgia get better losing all those studs on defense?
So actually the only team to for sure be better is Florida because they got a better coach
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:40 am to Powerman
I predict we beat Miami...but even after that, the haters will say we lose our next 11. 
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:41 am to DontCare
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For what it's worth, I hope our next HC grinds the program into the ground so that all of the posters and fans who see themselves as perpetual victims of a vast conspiracy by LSU to ruin LSU will burn yourselves out and die off. That would be EXACTLY what this fan base deserves after the unprecedented bitching and moaning of the past two years.
but I bet you tell people you "bleed purple and gold"
GTFO with this crap.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:42 am to rbdallas
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the HATERS will hate, the facts will matter very little.
if there's a group where facts/results mean little to, its the O pumpers
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:43 am to dukke v
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We did not know how bad the SEC was at the start of the year... is the schedule O's fault???
no but losing to Mississippi state by 30 is.
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did we lose to a team with a losing record???
no, just a team LSU was a 3 touchdown favorite against.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:44 am to Powerman
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Do you have a statistical breakdown on the matter? If not kindly shut the frick up
do you?
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