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Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:03 am to
Posted by CapitalCityTiger
Red Stick
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:03 am to
The fact that he scraped by and passed doesn't mean that there wasn't an academic issue necessarily...
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32571 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:04 am to
I played college ball, so don't tell me about sports. I am. Of talking about garbage time. I am talking about punishment.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:05 am to
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I am talking about punishment.



no one said it was a punishment. Les never said it was a punishment. Retarded ranters said it was Les' way of punishing Lee which I don't believe to be true one bit.
Posted by dansr731
Slidell
Member since Dec 2009
596 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:05 am to
I think Miles believes his team is good enough to win as long as the QB doesn't screw it up. Most coaches would rather punt than turn it over. I think he lost confidence in Lee after the Bama game.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42166 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:05 am to
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I am talking about punishment.


Who said sending him in for victory formation was punishment?

Posted by tjohn deaux
GA
Member since Feb 2007
10392 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:05 am to
For Pete's sake! This topic is threatening the popularity of the "Is there a God" argument, or Mouton's waistline.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32571 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:06 am to
Nor am I saying it is punishment. I am reapondingto the suggestion.


Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
14458 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:06 am to
quote:

My only solace is that Les does not seem to be the kind of coach - or man - who would allow personal feelings impact how he uses his personnel.


I have to agree with this as well. That is why this is so hard to accept. It truly makes no sense. Especially the SECCG. The way JJ played in the 1st half was beyond horrible by anyone's standards. The fact that Lee was not subbed in for even one snap as the "backup" to try and get something started is unexplainable. Now that we know that he is academically OK it is even more so.

Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:06 am to
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JJ was the QB and had 7 straight 3 and outs!!!


had a lot to do with the o-line and running game (not saying JJ wasn't partly to blame but he wasn't mainly to blame)
Posted by JonTheTigerFan
Central, LA
Member since Nov 2003
7052 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:06 am to
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Obviously, you missed the entire point of this topic.....and it is a legitamate topic now that the academic question is dead.


How do you know he wasn't having academic problems, not going to class, etc. and then stepped it up at the end of the semester and just pulled out passing grades?
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:07 am to
I think you're the only person in this thread who suggested it was punishment
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
19621 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:08 am to
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Maybe the BCSNCG will be a redemption for all of them.


I love how some faceless nobody out of thousands of faceless nobodies on a message board thinks that probably the greatest coach in the country--who coaches the number one team in the country--needs "redemption" concerning who he decides to start at quarterback and who takes a knee during blowouts.

Newsflash: Les Miles needs no "redemption," doesn't read these boards AND doesn't give a shite.

I think by now that would all be clear.

Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32571 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:09 am to
Somebody here raised the possibility o it being punitive. I can't believe such a thing. I just don't recall seeing the backup come in for victory formation ONLY. At least not in the Miles era. Not saying it doesn't happen. Frankly would like to be shown otherwise.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32571 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:09 am to
Bull frick I was.
Posted by TheHound
Member since Aug 2010
23 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:10 am to
The OP has implied that this coaching decision might have a negative impact on recruiting. I think it is safe to say that this coaching staff has got recruiting well under control, so please don't worry anymore about that.
To explain the starter vs. backup roles to you, JJ was the starter. He coudn't play, so the back up played, and played well. It was then his job to lose. He then lost it in a crucial game, and the original starter came in and won his job back. So, in any game the rest of the year, if the outcome is still in question, what coach worth his paycheck would do anything less than play the player that gives us the best chance to win?
For example, perhaps JLee goes in vs Arkansas (for a meaningful snap) when we are up by 14 and throws a pick 6. Who wants to give the other team a chance to stay in the game?
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:11 am to
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Bull frick I was.


then copy and paste another time when someone in this thread said it was punishment. And check your tone son.

eta: just checked. you're the only person in this thread to suggest sending him in to take a knee was punishment.
This post was edited on 12/17/11 at 10:12 am
Posted by goldengorilla
Dallas
Member since Jun 2008
1013 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:11 am to
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Interesting, I have watched football for years and have seen the backup go in for victory formation hundreds of times and no one complains. But now it is a "shite" move?

you can't make this kind of stupidity up


Given the situation dumbass. I think even YOU can see the difference between JL and a normal backup QB situation.
Posted by Sandtrap
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
2445 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:11 am to
He was mainly to blame. As a QB, you are going to get the credit when things go good and blame when things go bad. And, if you re-watch that first half, his throws were awful. He missed a wide open Randle on the second play and from that point on his throws were off and he was missing badly, so he gets the majority of the blame.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24486 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:12 am to
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and it is a legitamate topic now that the academic question is dead.


See, this is where the rub lies.

It may be true that Lee would have seen more playing time, if his attendance were better, but those upset about his lack of playing time, are the very same people who were upset about Jefferson's increased playing time.

And the truth of the matter is that Jefferson gives us the best chance to win, period. However, a game situation could dictate a change. Fortunately for us, it hasn't.
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7710 posts
Posted on 12/17/11 at 10:14 am to
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The fact that he scraped by and passed doesn't mean that there wasn't an academic issue necessarily...

So this is a fact now, not purely speculation?


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