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re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?
Posted on 3/14/19 at 9:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 3/14/19 at 9:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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They're just letting emotion rule reason.
People are doing this on both sides.
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 9:24 pm to RogerTheShrubber
LSU athletics needs to hire a PR firm.
Whether right or wrong decision was made in this particular case, they often don’t do a good job of selling their story.
While I disagree with the action LSU took, I understand it, and it could have been packaged and presented to the fanbase better and mitigated some of the backlash.
But yet again, for the 3rd or 4th time since 2016, LSU comes off looking bad in the eyes of many people when they really aren’t the bad guy ... that’s a PR problem.
Prime example... 2 statements this morning. On its face and in reality, LSU is absolutely in the right to want to hear their enployee say I’m innocent. No reasonable person would disagree. Seems logical and reasonable. But just compare the tone of the 2 statements ... one party looks like they’re bullying a family member and the other looks somewhat reasonable and sympathetic. LSU fails time and time again at these PR battles.
Whether right or wrong decision was made in this particular case, they often don’t do a good job of selling their story.
While I disagree with the action LSU took, I understand it, and it could have been packaged and presented to the fanbase better and mitigated some of the backlash.
But yet again, for the 3rd or 4th time since 2016, LSU comes off looking bad in the eyes of many people when they really aren’t the bad guy ... that’s a PR problem.
Prime example... 2 statements this morning. On its face and in reality, LSU is absolutely in the right to want to hear their enployee say I’m innocent. No reasonable person would disagree. Seems logical and reasonable. But just compare the tone of the 2 statements ... one party looks like they’re bullying a family member and the other looks somewhat reasonable and sympathetic. LSU fails time and time again at these PR battles.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 3/14/19 at 9:29 pm to JPLSU1981
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that’s a PR problem.
Probably, because they are releasing info through standard channels without going through an authorized spokesman.
Facts are crude and usually off putting, particularly if released in a clumsy manner.
I just think most people here think it's the Administrations job to support the coach 100%, and that's just not the case. It's a business, and a public university with lots of stakeholders.
I hope Wade is back and think he will be.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 9:34 pm to beauxroux
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WW could talk. It wouldn't be smart bc whatever he says now can be used when he is on the witness stand. Problem is WW has no idea how many conversations were captured in the FBI wiretap. He may deny something now, only to learn its be taped.
THIS is the reason he's not talking. He doesnt know what else they have. But it has nothing to do with the possibility that he may be called as an adverse witness by the defense at a trial where he hasn't even been subpoenaed.
IMO he's hurting himself. He's letting the narrative be written by Dawkins and the press. He should at LEAST have his attorney speaking on his behalf.
If more tapes come out later, he'll he hurt whether he defends himself now or not.
Plus with the OLOL scandal breaking, he no doubt has dirt on LSU. He can leverage this against LSU in settlement negotiations and to tell LSU to STFU.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 3/14/19 at 9:40 pm to atltiger6487
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hey can’t. Everyone here knows Wade paid players, they just like the winning so much they’re making every excuse in the book.
And they’re all hypocrites. If Wade coached for Bama, Florida, etc, this board would be DESTROYING him as a cheater and SCREAMING for him to be fired and for the school to get put on massive probation.
I’ve always known this board had a lot of blind homers, but this situation has really disheartened me about our fans. Wades a cheater, and yet 90% of this board is defending him.
Its disgraceful.
It's just sad and pathetic that so-called LSU fans like yourself are the ones making this whole Wade thing much bigger than it originally was.
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Its disgraceful.
What's disgraceful is you slamming a coach who just won the SEC Championship in year 2 of his tenure. A coach who recruited agressively to try and keep up with other programs and uplift an LSU basketball program out the gutter. A coach who found a way for a team full of highly talented players to coexist and thrive under his direction. A coach who brought his team even closer together after one of their teammates was murdered just before the season started. A coach who understood that Smart was a hometown talent who was vital to his 1st recruiting class and its success.
None of this matters to you though b/c in your eyes Wade is nothing more than a cheater. Well, people like you are getting exactly what you want and Wade is no longer a part of the team right now.
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 10:17 pm to LouBega
quote:This is not a troll answer, it's based on the reality of the current situation.
This is not a troll. I just wish our fans were a little more honest with themselves.
First, define "damn strong offer"... I can't seem to find what the monetary value is. Depending on context, it might be a lot, it might not be anything we assume.
Second, list the elite superstar players Will Wade has brought to the program. You know, the lottery picks. The sure first round picks. Those guys you would expect to be most likely to receive bags of cash, if paying players is actually a thing.
Now, is what is being reported, does that sound bad? Yep, sure does. Where's it coming from? The guy on trial who's trying to spread blame everywhere? Being fed to media types who want publicity and clicks? Hmm.
Sounds like a great reason to burn it all down. Because it sounds, from a distance, like a distasteful thing might be going down, out of context.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 10:19 pm to LouBega
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There may be some loophole that clears Wade. But let’s all be honest here. We know what was going on.
People use the term "know" very casually. You have a strong and reasonable theory. But you don't "know"
Posted on 3/14/19 at 10:22 pm to atltiger6487
Move to ‘Missouri son. Maybe he is completely guilty maybe you and all the SJWs believe everyone plays fair and by the rules all the time. Duke, Kentucky, UNC and on and on don’t do a damn thing wrong do they? What they don’t do is bow down to the NCAA and take it like our stupid arse admin are doing.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:38 pm to LouBega
Family is part of every good pitch to a student. You gotta win mom. If he plays at LSU she can see him and he can help her out if need be.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:39 pm to LSUFanHouston
You offer scholarships and make a pitch for them to come to LSU.
Sales pitch
Recruiting pitch
Is this hard to follow?
Sales pitch
Recruiting pitch
Is this hard to follow?
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:39 pm to LouBega
I don’t give a shite about what anything sounds like. I only care about what can be proven.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:46 pm to LouBega
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How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?
because Wade has been awesome as a coach and people will believe what they want to believe is true.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:53 pm to STEVED00
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How could Auburn defend Cam’s dad asking for $$ for his services?
because Cam won Auburn a national championship and they got away with it, so it's easy for an Auburn fan to defend him. Cam, too, was suspended until cleared by the NCAA. He didn't hide behind attorneys either. The FBI also investigated the Cam issue as well fwiw. Cam was proactive in clearing his name, was cooperative and was cleared by the NCAA within a couple of days of being suspended.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 12:29 am to KayakingTiger
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Who he was talking to explains what the convo was about so IMO it wasn’t about scholarships.
That is what most here don't understand, everyone in college basketball knew the business Dawkins was in, Wade had no legitimate reason to even answer a call from him. Just taking the call and talking about nothing but the weather if made public would do nothing but create a suspicion of wrongdoing which is exactly what happened.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 12:45 am to EA6B
Posted on 3/15/19 at 12:53 am to EA6B
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That is what most here don't understand, everyone in college basketball knew the business Dawkins was in, Wade had no legitimate reason to even answer a call from him. Just taking the call and talking about nothing but the weather if made public would do nothing but create a suspicion of wrongdoing which is exactly what happened.
Irrelevant.
I’ve talked to drug dealers before but that doesn’t automatically mean I purchased illegal narcotics off of them.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 12:55 am to J2thaROC
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I’ve talked to drug dealers before but that doesn’t automatically mean I purchased illegal narcotics off of them.
Did you talk to drug dealers about potential other drug deals on a federal wiretap?
This is a stupid parallel you’re trying to draw btw
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 12:56 am
Posted on 3/15/19 at 12:55 am to LouBega
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I’ve seen people say the offer was referencing a scholarship?
Then it must be true.
Show me verifiable proof.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 12:56 am to lsufball19
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because Wade has been awesome as a coach and people will believe what they want to believe is true.
Pretty sure nobody believes that Wade didn’t cheat in any way.
Your comment is completely asinine.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 12:57 am to J2thaROC
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Pretty sure nobody believes that Wade didn’t cheat in any way.
Doesn't matter what anyone believes, it matters what can be proven. Not a shot at you, but just saying.
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 12:58 am
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