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NC_Tigah
LSU Fan
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?
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"He has been notified that he will be subpoenaed."

And you think this means anything?
Yes.
The fact that you don't think it means anything, and then audaciously warn others to "stop trying to be lawyers," leaves me to provide you with the same advice.

If you seriously think a client should submit to third party inquisitions regarding upcoming testimony in criminal court, then "stop trying to be lawyer."


BillF
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Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
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re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?
Yes, he can say whatever he wants after being subpoenaed. He can also sentence himself to prison. Every person subpoenaed can say what they want, before the fact or on the stand, if they choose to face the consequences.

It's probably best if you stop trying to be a lawyer.


Cajunomics
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2010
629 posts

re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?
There is nothing to make one way or the other.

How can anyone assume anything from such vague statements?

There are not enough details to know assume or know anything.
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BillF
LSU Fan
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
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re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?
I never said he should submit to an interview. I actually said I wouldn't advise him to do so. I said there was no legal reason to prevent him from doing so. And there is no legality that prevents him from submitting to an interview.

Seems every poster thinks he knows the law. Few do.


NC_Tigah
LSU Fan
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
89730 posts

re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?
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And there is no legality that prevents him from submitting to an interview.

Who the hell was saying that? No one!

"There is 'no legality' that prevents him from submitting to an interview."
"There is 'no legality' that prevents him from" getting a forehead tattoo saying "James M. Williams is a Racist".
There is "no legality" preventing many Darwin Award Winners from doing stupid things.

None of which means they should do those stupid things, "legality" notwitstanding.
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I never said he should submit to an interview. I actually said I wouldn't advise him to do so.
So let's clear up the language a bit.
You say you "wouldn't advise him to do so."
Fine, but relatively unsubstantive.

What WOULD you advise him to do?


LSUtoBOOT
LSU Fan
Member since Aug 2012
1115 posts

re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?
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Are scholarships given out to players family members?


As Lawrence Welk would say, a one-a and a Tua, and the family gets to mov-a.
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BillF
LSU Fan
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
2300 posts

re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?
I would advise him to say nothing unless he could vindicate himself. He can't, so say nothing.

There's nothing difficult about that.


NC_Tigah
LSU Fan
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
89730 posts

re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?
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unless he could vindicate himself
Then you'd be an ignoramus


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atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
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re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?
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As Lawrence Welk would say, a one-a and a Tua, and the family gets to mov-a
and the Bama obsession continues....


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beauxroux
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Houma, LA
Member since Nov 2010
1937 posts

re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?
Hopefully you understand the difference between commenting publicly and meeting privately.


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NC_Tigah
LSU Fan
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
89730 posts

re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?
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Hopefully you understand the difference between commenting publicly and meeting privately.
I do. LSU declined to hold a private meeting with Wade. Now that that is clear, is there something you'd like to add?


TeddyPadillac
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Dec 2010
12881 posts

re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?
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I’ve always known this board had a lot of blind homers, but this situation has really disheartened me about our fans. Wades a cheater, and yet 90% of this board is defending him.



Well we had about 20 years of not cheating, and it wasn't really fun at all, and the 2 years of Wade have exceeded everyone's expectations. I, like many others, was very interested in purchasing season tickets for next year. I had no want to do that in the previous 20 years.
Every successful college basketball coach at the P5 schools is a cheater. Get over it.


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beauxroux
LSU Fan
Houma, LA
Member since Nov 2010
1937 posts

re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?
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He is under a subpoena by the FBI in a huge case. He is limited to what he can and can’t talk about.

No. He is not under subpoena by FBI. He can talk about whatever he wants. Prudence says he should not talk bc he is a potential witness in a criminal trial. But witnesses talk all the time. His contract requires him to fully cooperate with LSU and NCAA. So he is in a pickle. A pickle created by him being caught on FBI wiretap. Is NCAA case a slam dunk? No. Is there a reasonable suspicion of wrongdoing? Yes. Would it be nice for Wade to give us an explanation or denial of wrongdoing? Of course. But he ain't talking until after the criminal trial. So-- employer doesn't have to accept his desire to avoid cooperation until after trial. Employer can suspend him. That is exactly what is being done.

Wade wants to coach...then cooperate with LSU and NCAA like contract requires. Wade wants to avoid potential problems in the event he is subpoenaed to testify and testifies.... ask for patience. It's a mess. A mess created by WW.


NC_Tigah
LSU Fan
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?
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He can talk about whatever he wants.


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beauxroux
LSU Fan
Houma, LA
Member since Nov 2010
1937 posts

re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?
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I do. LSU declined to hold a private meeting with Wade. Now that that is clear, is there something you'd like to add?

Meeting was private-- not open to the public. Wade and his legal team did not like NCAA being there. Even with NCAA there, meeting is private. And WW required to cooperate with LSU and NCAA per his contract.


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ThePistol
LSU Fan
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
662 posts

re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?
The ignorance of our fan base never ceases to amaze me, especially when it comes to basketball. The administration gave in to media pressure and has created the public disaster that we see today.

I don’t think any reasonable fans think that everything was by the book. Nor should they. The point is that there are wiretaps with other power 5 coaches in similarly damning situations. There have been power 5 asst coaches who have been arrested. Hell, the face of college basketball this year has a tape in which a representative is discussing cash, jobs, and housing to consider a school. Not one coach, player, or staff has been suspended yet.

The reason for this is it’s a full blown systemic issue. The NCAA will have to tread lightly because their cash cow of March Madness will crumble if they go and enforce everything on the tapes. LSU’s administration did not follow the lead of Arizona, Kansas, UNC, Auburn, Duke, Creighton etc. and immediately called the NCAA in. That’s a fine response if you don’t want a successful program.

As an alumnus, season ticket holder, and TAF member I am disgusted and alarmed at the politics in play here. This university and the way they handle things is third class at the moment.


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NC_Tigah
LSU Fan
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
89730 posts

re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?
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A mess created by WW.
Nope. Until late-April we won't know the extent, if any, to which Wade is culpable in this. But we do know right now that LSU was spastically incompetent in handling the thing.





beauxroux
LSU Fan
Houma, LA
Member since Nov 2010
1937 posts

re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?
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Nope. Until late-April we won't know the extent, if any, to which Wade is culpable in this.

Only bc WW won't talk now. He won't deny now. And he is smart to do so, bc he has no idea want else may be on tape.
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Geauxst Writer
LSU Fan
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
2961 posts

re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?
I don’t where the Admin botched this. Once the tape came out and Wade would not talk to them, the Admin had no choice but to do what it did. What did the Admin do wrong?


ThePistol
LSU Fan
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
662 posts

re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?
There are other tapes out there that implicate bigger programs if the same level of proof was applied. Our administration did not circle the Wagons around our coach. They instantly called the NCAA in to investigate and blindsided the coach with this news. All because they chose to give in to public pressure. It doesn’t help that dirty politics seem to be at play.

Again, this is a systemic issue that involves EVERY single power 5 program. I didn’t hear one commentator discussing Sean Miller, Bill Self, or Zion Williamson this season. At this time last year, Miller was on tape discussing a specific dollar amount payment to a player who played for him and ended up going #1 in the NBA draft. LSU admin has chosen to hang their coach out to dry in an attempt to protect themselves or their own interests. It’s embarrassing.


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