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re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?

Posted on 3/28/19 at 7:51 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124424 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 7:51 am to
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My question is this ... What exactly was the administration suppose to do???...
If the Administration has a tape showing WW cheated and paid Smart, they should fire Wade and d/q Smart. They have done neither.

Any other questions, lepdashark?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48248 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 7:54 am to
They could’ve handled it exactly like the other 40+ schools did and waited for evidence or a reason to act in either way. Btw why do you keep saying something you can’t know to be true and almost certainly isn’t true is true?
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 7:54 am to
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If the Administration has a tape showing WW cheated and paid Smart, they should fire Wade and d/q Smart. They have done neither.


Not like Joe ever needed evidence of wrongdoing before firing a coach amid media pressure.

As long as he has a murderous prostitute (or the media equivalent) levying baseless accusations, that's plenty good for Joe.
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 7:57 am to
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Of course these people have heard the tape... you think LSU or the NCAA doesn't have no one with the connections to get the tape...

The administration more than likely have been told by a insider Will on the wrong side here.



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You serious???

Posted by tiger_nutz
Member since Feb 2017
763 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 7:58 am to
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NC_Tigah


Since you act like you are smarter than everyone on this thread and you seem to know exactly whats going on, how about a ban bet? WW will not be back coaching the LSU Basketball team due to recruiting violations. He comes back clean then ban me...he doesn't, then you can quit your day job of posting your opinions all over the internet and get back to overcharging your patients.

You're confident enough to act a jackass to everyone that doesn't share your point of view so put your money where your mouth is doc.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119230 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:06 am to
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You serious???

Of course these people have heard the tape... you think LSU or the NCAA doesn't have no one with the connections to get the tape...


The same connection we all have. Pat Forde's account for the Dawkins legal team's account of what is on the tape.

That's all the NCAA has, the LSU admin, WW, me, you and the Rant.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124424 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:06 am to
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WW will not be back coaching the LSU Basketball team due to recruiting violations
quote:

If the Administration has a tape showing WW cheated and paid Smart, they should fire Wade and d/q Smart.


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You're confident enough to act a jackass
Did I mention your wife?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119230 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:06 am to
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If the Administration has a tape showing WW cheated and paid Smart, they should fire Wade and d/q Smart. They have done neither.



This, 100%.
Posted by tiger_nutz
Member since Feb 2017
763 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:08 am to
Stop deflecting pansy. Not too confident after all?
Posted by lovemytigers1
far away land
Member since Aug 2014
1021 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:09 am to
did coach wade say that was not the whole story, too many people jumping conclusion
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:10 am to
How can anyone be such a fricking moron? No one has even heard the full tapes.
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2144 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:11 am to
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if Wade were to go into a room with Alleva, LSU president F. King Alexander and/or members of the university’s Board of Supervisors and discuss anything on those transcripts it’s a good bet he’ll subject all of them to being subpoenaed by Dawkins’ defense counsel as well, and at that point everybody could be in a perjury trap. Be careful what you ask for.

Except, that's not how it works. The hearsay rule and the judge will not allow testimony from people about what a witness (that is not a party) said.
Hearsay definition: a statement made out of court and not under oath which is offered as proof that what is stated in court is true/false.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45273 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:13 am to
I haven’t heard the tapes and neither have you. Only one that has heard the tape is the FBI and the defense lawyers. Wade’s attorneys probably haven’t heard the tape. I don’t think they would have access to them because he isn’t on trial. How do we even know for sure it is Wade on the tape? What if it turns out it isn’t even his voice, then what? Is it him? Probably but no one can say for sure without having heard them.
Posted by doya2
Charenton
Member since Jan 2005
7935 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:14 am to
So someone else used his phone?
Posted by CHSTigersFan
Charleston, Arkansas
Member since Jan 2005
2738 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:14 am to
Have you HEARD the tapes? Last I checked no one had.....THAT is my defense of the conversations from the tapes cause no one has heard them.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4345 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:17 am to
Cannot be defended. The administration decided he was gone. Arizona Auburn Kansas and others decided to,stare down and challenge the NCAA. LSU did not. Probably an honorable decision. Having said that we will get hammered by the NCAA. And the other programs will not be. So do not know what we gained if only empty virus signalling by our President and Boardof Supervisors
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119230 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:17 am to
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Not like Joe ever needed evidence of wrongdoing before firing a coach amid media pressure.


The problem with this statement is that you are assuming that people understand the Duke LaX case. They probably don't. They don't understand the fact that as Duke AD Alleva threw the Duke LaX team under the bus by knee jerk reacting to fake media reporting. It costs Duke over $40 million dollars because of Alleva's knee jerk reaction.

And we (LSU) hired this guy. A guy that is reactionary to media reports and does not believe in the concept of due process.

If it walks like a duck....

Well, as it turned out the same media induced knee jerk management behavior has carried over to LSU:

1. Firing and not firing of Les Miles.
2. This debacle.

All situations that could have been avoided if he would have allowed due process to complete instead of being reactionary to fake news media.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9125 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:18 am to
Dude this could have been early on in his recruitment when WW didn’t have much momentum for the program and he wanted to get attention to it how ever possible knowing others were throwing money at him to simply gain interest and then had a real conversation with the recruit followed by dropping the whole so called offer and middle man. The offer could have been anything from a full scholarship, to a promise to make an NBA roster after training with Wade, to promise to win the SEC, a joke or a pair of shoes with an LSU logo??? No one knows that.

It’s not a sin to talk about these things to gain interest from recruits to get them on campus then go the legal route. It was a very short snippet of I’m sure a much longer, more detailed conversation. Why leak only bits and pieces that implicate the man instead of the hole thing leaving no doubt one way or another. There’s likely a “damn strong” reason they leaked the worse sound bites of WW because the rest would leave no doubt that it was innocent conversation. You have to ask these questions because if you don’t then of course your conclusion would be guilt. That was the point of releasing those sound bites right before the SEC/NCAA tournament.

There’s some dirty awful people out there who really want to hurt LSU as a program and kill this thing before it starts. WW was turning things around quickly and some folks didn’t like that. Call me crazy but the media is known for this type of behavior so forgive me if I’m skeptical of the timing and way in which this was delivered to the nation with unnamed sources while LSU is being singled out amongst the true lies and deception. Imo this is an attempt to distract from the real scandal in college basketball and our institution leaders bent the knee to these clowns exactly the way it was intended and planned.

Then if WW is actually guilty there was still some real dirty deeds happening behind the scenes to sink the LSU basketball program and single us out as the fall guy. Demonize LSU as if we’re what’s wrong with the system. It just seems awfully convenient to me.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101799 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:20 am to
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So you don't think LSU or the NCAA have people they can call to listen to that tape????... that's naive to think otherwise... Will didn't come to the meeting because his lawyer know the administration has heard the tape and he basically had no excuse to give them period...




If this is the case, then they are completely inept for still having Wade on the payroll, no?
Posted by whoisnickdoobs
Lafayette
Member since Apr 2012
9352 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:25 am to
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Have you HEARD the tapes? Last I checked no one had.....THAT is my defense of the conversations from the tapes cause no one has heard them.


Exactly! Everyone keeps talking about how bad they are, yet no one has actually heard them.

Also, no one uses tapes to record anymore. Why does everyone call it a tape? It's just a recording.
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