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re: Help me out with the definition of a sac bunt.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 3:41 pm to dukeg7213
Posted on 2/16/25 at 3:41 pm to dukeg7213
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Are your chances higher statistically to get that runner in from 3rd with the next 2 batters or statistically higher having to get a hit and score from 2nd?
The fallacy with your argument is that the bunt will be successful, and that if you don't bunt, the runner won't advance to 3rd.
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Posted on 2/16/25 at 3:44 pm to medtiger
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The fallacy with your argument is that the bunt will be successful, and that if you don't bunt, the runner won't advance to 3rd.
no, he’s assuming the bunt has a higher statistical chance of success.
there is a 70%+ chance the batter will be out no matter what.
the bunt increases your chances of dictating how the out happens.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 4:14 pm to Lester Earl
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there are all sorts of situations that play into that decision, and not just late in a game.
nope
In the pros, maybe
If you're a college team facing a guy like Skenes and he dominated you last time and your leadoff hits a double, you sac that guy from second to third. Now your next batter just needs to put it in play to score a run. You take every chance you can to score against a top tier pitcher, even more so if the defense behind him is solid.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 4:20 pm to Cuz413
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If you're a college team facing a guy like Skenes and he dominated you last time and your leadoff hits a double, you sac that guy from second to third. Now your next batter just needs to put it in play to score a run. You take every chance you can to score against a top tier pitcher, even more so if the defense behind him is solid.
nope
Posted on 2/16/25 at 4:22 pm to GumboPot
Batter safe at first is a hit. Only a “sacrifice” if batter is out.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 4:22 pm to GumboPot
Depends on how he reached. Could be a sac bunt with an error or could be a hit.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 4:45 pm to CDawson
You can sac bunt and be safe. Fielders choice is an option. They could try to throw out advancing runner and runner beat it out.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 4:50 pm to Lester Earl
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nope
Yep
Wake Forest literally do it to perfection vs Skenes it just so happened Tre Morgan made a highlight reel play. Any other 1st baseman in college baseball doesn’t make that play and the run scores.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 4:52 pm to dukeg7213
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Any other 1st baseman in college baseball doesn’t make that play and the run scores.
Jared jones made the same play last year in a game lol
Posted on 2/16/25 at 5:39 pm to paulb52
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Batter safe at first is a hit. Only a “sacrifice” if batter is out.
Listening to Moscona repeating stats that sac bunting with a runner in scoring position is a big no in every situation. But here’s the deal, the batters that bunted for a single to advance the runner are not included in this stat.
From a mangers perspective you bunt with guys that have a higher rate or getting a single and you let other hitters that suck at bunting swing.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 5:54 pm to GumboPot
It’s only a sac if the batter is out at first
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:01 pm to JMMarine
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It’s only a sac if the batter is out at first
It is also scored as a sac bunt if the batter reaches base because of a fielding error.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:04 pm to GumboPot
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I was listening to Moscona live yesterday and he was stating that statistically you should NEVER sacrifice bunt.
Statistically, you should never punt, either.
And yet
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:14 pm to Choupique19
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Moscona really doesn't understand baseball.
Moscona is using decades of MLB data for his premise about bunting. I doubt that those percentages apply to all levels of baseball.
This post was edited on 2/16/25 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:22 pm to Hateradedrink
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Statistically, you should never punt, either.
And yet
The amount of teams going for it on 4th down in negative territory or just past midfield has become so normalized that people do not even realize how common it is now.
The issue with LSU fans is they watch 50 LSU baseball games a year and don't realize this same trend has happened with bunting across MLB and college baseball.
The Dodgers sacrificed 10x last year in 162 games.
The runner up Yankees sacrificed bunted 14x in 162 games.
Or once every 14 games or so. These were the 2nd and 3rd best offenses in baseball.
Bunting is stupid just about always.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 8:33 pm to GumboPot
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I was listening to Moscona live yesterday and he was stating that statistically you should NEVER sacrifice bunt.
There are varying schools of thought here. I wouldn’t necessarily agree stats hold water here if you’re trying to win ONE game. Over the course of a season, especially an MLB season, yea bunting almost makes zero sense.
Now, if you’re trying to win a single game, it’s advantageous to get as many runners in scoring position as possible. Especially with less than two outs. Runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs in a must win game… you pretty much bunt 98 out 100 times no matter who’s at the plate. The exception being if you’re down in the ninth and need more than one run to keep it going or Bear is at bat.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 10:08 pm to GumboPot
If the batter reaches first on an error, a sacrifice is credited. This removes the at bat from the batting average denominator.
A bunt for a hit is simply a base hit that advances the runner.
A bunt for a hit is simply a base hit that advances the runner.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 10:16 pm to Lester Earl
1st and 2nd with one out should be automatic bunt unless you’ve got Tommy white or crews at the plate.
1st and 3rd to get the safety squeeze works well too but not as much of a no brained. Just puts the defense in a pickle
1st and 3rd to get the safety squeeze works well too but not as much of a no brained. Just puts the defense in a pickle
Posted on 2/16/25 at 10:23 pm to Lester Earl
You just said it and you didn’t even realize it. They were the 2nd and 3rd best offenses. They could hit the ball. Teams that can’t as well will bunt because hitting a ball successfully is hard af.
It makes sense to bunt when you can’t just mash the ball. Kentucky had a massively successful season last year and they bunted a ton
It makes sense to bunt when you can’t just mash the ball. Kentucky had a massively successful season last year and they bunted a ton
This post was edited on 2/16/25 at 10:25 pm
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