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re: Hannagriff “Orgeron’s doing better than most of his replacements”
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:09 pm to TrueTigerTale
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:09 pm to TrueTigerTale
Charlie, Charlie, Charlie. Unreal how far in the tank for Special Ed he has become.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:10 pm to LSUInTheBR
You can bitch about the offense and the two losses this year, but calling him special Ed isn’t cool or funny.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:11 pm to RuLSU
That is a picture of Les Miles
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:12 pm to Jabstep
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The head to head battles have gone our way.
Chaisson and brooks
nice pivot....
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:12 pm to TrueTigerTale
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then you need to point to Ga, the best win of any college team this year belongs to the LSU Tigers and Orgeron
Actually, why wouldn't the best win of the year be Bama over us?
This guy doesn't have any self respect to so nakedly shill for Orgeron and his regime.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:13 pm to Goldrush25
And to put this dumb thread out to pasture, Charlie just said the arky defense was hot garbage and there was no excuse for us not to light them up.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:13 pm to The Pirate King
It’s an exact description of him.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:13 pm to Baloo
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A&M was picked to finish ahead of LSU this season at SEC Media Days.
Based almost entirely on respective coaching reputations.
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The Aggies had a top 20 class for every enrolled class at the time of Fisher's hire, so they weren't devoid of talent.
Compared to the class rankings at LSU the previous 5 years before Orgeron was hired?
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They are currently 6-4.
So they're on pace to equal or improve upon their previous 5 seasons. So is LSU, but the talent level is not even, as evidenced by an average margin of victory of 2 tds over the last 4 years. A margin of victory that has increased every year over the last 4 years.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:14 pm to Goldrush25
O is not the answer folks. I would love to eat crow but this is reality. Here’s to hope that we get Hugh Freeze 

Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:14 pm to The Pirate King
quote:. Not really LSU was in much better shape than Texas when both took over each program
Tom Herman is a pretty good comparison I think. Ed has him beat.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:16 pm to TeddyPadillac
8 guys in our front seven last year graduated. Not one was drafted or made an NFL roster
We have zero Seniors in the front seven this year
Clapp was drafted in the 7th round last year. Brumfeld is the only senior OL and he will probably not be drafted
We may have had more talent than Texas when the two coaches were hired, but let’s not act like LSU had a top ten roster. Not even close
We have zero Seniors in the front seven this year
Clapp was drafted in the 7th round last year. Brumfeld is the only senior OL and he will probably not be drafted
We may have had more talent than Texas when the two coaches were hired, but let’s not act like LSU had a top ten roster. Not even close
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:18 pm to TrueTigerTale
So he's completely ignoring that those guys took over programs in significantly worse positions than LSU when they started and included significant staff overhauls.
Texas was bad, and Herman has improved them significantly in his first two years.
A&M is too early with Fisher, and you'ce.
Fuentes at VaTech is not great.
Hanagriff is clearly being steered to try and turn opinion back in O's favor, because you can completely ignore context of each of those hires and where the programs were.
O was handed a sports car that needed some minor repairs, while others got junkers that needed to be completely overhauled.
In fact, O as hired specifically because it was felt LSU didn't need a rebuild, but he sure claimed it was needed once he tanked some games last season.
Texas was bad, and Herman has improved them significantly in his first two years.
A&M is too early with Fisher, and you'ce.
Fuentes at VaTech is not great.
Hanagriff is clearly being steered to try and turn opinion back in O's favor, because you can completely ignore context of each of those hires and where the programs were.
O was handed a sports car that needed some minor repairs, while others got junkers that needed to be completely overhauled.
In fact, O as hired specifically because it was felt LSU didn't need a rebuild, but he sure claimed it was needed once he tanked some games last season.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:18 pm to 1999
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damn. someone got to hanny.
His boss is Steve Ensmingers son in law.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:19 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Not really LSU was in much better shape than Texas when both took over each program
Everyone that's not an Orgeron shill realizes this.
Texas was 5-7 before Herman took over. I don't even know why this is a talking point
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:22 pm to Goldrush25
because its pirate and well....ah best be careful before he tattles on me again for being mean.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:23 pm to Geauxgurt
Yep. Miles lost 10 conf games in his last three full seasons. Eddie will finish Up year 2 with 4 losses through 2 seasons. So he can lose 5 next year and still be better in conference than miles was his last theee years. Of course there’s no shot we lose 5. O has been good, not great, def an improvement over the last few years of miles. ultimately Brennan will be what makes or breaks O career at LSU. If Brennan is a stud O will be here for 4-5 more years at least.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:23 pm to The Pirate King
The simple fact is on par with the top programs in CFB not named Bama and possibly Clemson.
Bama is at a whole new level this year bc they can win with their offense or their defense.
Bama is at a whole new level this year bc they can win with their offense or their defense.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:25 pm to Goldrush25
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Everyone that's not an Orgeron shill realizes this.
My main issue with discussions like this one. I don't want to dislike Orgeron or the job he's done. I don't think he's delivered on what he promised while campaigning for the job in 2016.
I didn't like the hire when it happened, but it happened. The continual need by some to prop him up against what others are doing is what gets to me.
Let the man's achievements stand or fall on their own merit.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:27 pm to The Pirate King
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You can bitch about the offense rankings, but overall, he’s held things together pretty well.
He wasn't hired to "hold things together". He was hired to improve upon what his predecessor was doing and to improve the archaic offense.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:27 pm to The Pirate King
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Tom Herman is a pretty good comparison I think. Ed has him beat.
Here are the records for each program over the last 4 years.
6-7
5-7
5-7
7-6
8-5
9-3
9-4
9-4
Texas has a shot at a 10-3 season if they can win out, including the bowl game. LSU has a shot at 11-2 if they can win out, including the bowl game.
I'm not really sure if you can say "Orgeron has him beat" if Herman elevates Texas from 5 wins to 10 wins in 2 years. That's pretty much even.
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