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Guice accused of rape while at LSU

Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:36 am
Posted by TigerFanFromBama
Montgomery AL
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:36 am
USA Today
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 6:38 am
Posted by luismlg
Member since Mar 2010
1430 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:38 am to
Wow, hope its not true.

But will hold my judgement until he is proven guilty.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95528 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:40 am to
I tried to tell y’all

And this goes so much further than Guice.....

quote:

The woman, a former LSU tennis player, spoke at length with an investigator for Washington on Aug. 6 — one day before Guice’s arrest and subsequent release.


Thank God it was under a different head coach and AD when it went down
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 6:41 am
Posted by Lord_Ford
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:41 am to
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A USA TODAY investigation found that the women’s allegations were shared at the time with multiple people at the school — including at least two coaches, an athletics administrator and a nurse — yet the school does not appear to have investigated.



Yikes. Hopefully this isn’t true, and if true hopefully those coaches are long gone.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:43 am to
quote:

The woman’s boyfriend at the time, an LSU football recruit, wasn’t at the party. But he said the woman told him afterward about both the alleged assault and her conversation with the nurse. His description matched that of the woman’s.


The former boyfriend redshirted his freshman year and said he steered clear of Guice because “I probably would have lost my (expletive) on him.” But he said LSU head football coach Ed Orgeron brought up the subject of his then-girlfriend and Guice about a year after the alleged assault, telling the athlete that he shouldn’t be bothered by it.

“(Orgeron) said, ‘Everybody’s girlfriend sleeps with other people,’” the former player told USA TODAY.



The former player said he doesn’t know how Orgeron knew what happened, but he believes the coach knew it was not consensual.

“I lost all respect for him,” the player added.

Orgeron did not respond to a request for comment.

The woman said when she heard Guice had told other players he’d had sex with her, she made it clear to them it had not been consensual.


Curious to see how O tries to talk his way out of this one
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:44 am to
If she told multiple people on staff, and they refused to investigate, it’s over. LSU is done and would deserve it, if that’s the case.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:45 am to
“Thank god she got raped when the prior coach was here”

Yea, that’s the attitude
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:45 am to
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Curious to see how O tries to talk his way out of this one


Unless it’s a blatant lie, there is no talking your way out of it. In no way can this be justified.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 6:47 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95528 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:45 am to
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Curious to see how O tries to talk his way out of this one
Even your clueless arse doesn’t believe the Coach O bullshite part of the story

A redshirts girlfriend sleeps with Guice when Coach O is the line coach

A year later as head coach O goes up to the walk in and says “don’t worry baw, Guice sleeps with all of our ladies”

That’s ridiculous.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 6:49 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95528 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:46 am to
quote:

“Thank god she got raped when the prior coach was here”

Yea, that’s the attitude


Well, would you rather it be under the current admin or the one we got rid of?

The heinous act already happened. We pretty much cleaned house


Except for the women’s tennis coaches.....
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:48 am to
THIs is why i hate checking TD. There’s always something
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278505 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:48 am to
Wut
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95528 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:50 am to
quote:

Wut


Exactly what I said

In 2016, when Coach O is the line coach, Guice sleeps with the guys girlfriend

An entire year later, Coach O, randomly walks up to the redshirt player and says “don’t be bothered, everyone’s girlfriend sleeps with people”

And the player says he has a hunch Coach O knew it wasn’t consensual

That part of the story looks so obvious they had to find a way to shoehorn O into the story
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 6:52 am
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278505 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:52 am to
Coach O was the interim coach after what, 3games in 16’?

I hope it’s all bullshite but cmon
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95528 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:53 am to
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Coach O was the interim coach after what, 3games in 16’?

I hope it’s all bullshite but cmon


The story is absolutely not bullshite from the perspective of the rape claims

But, I’ll be clear, this was a coverup from the tennis side far more than anyone in football

But that doesn’t really sell a story.....


And you remember Lester Earls son, well, it’s linked to this story.....
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 6:54 am
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25028 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:54 am to
Yeah, I've a hard time believing O fits into this that way, too.

It's also easy to make someone seem in on it by throwing out allegations like, "so and so thinks O knew" without ever stating why or based off what.

Seems like BS reporting to me.
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
3994 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:55 am to
quote:

Exactly what I said

In 2016, when Coach O is the line coach, Guice sleeps with the guys girlfriend

An entire year later, Coach O, randomly walks up to the redshirt player and says “don’t be bothered, everyone’s girlfriend sleeps with people”

And the player says he has a hunch Coach O knew it wasn’t consensual

That part of the story looks so obvious they had to find a way to shoehorn O into the story


he said she said, I thought he maybe knew there was a non consensual feel to it maybe.

this is purposely obfuscated context.

"orgeron brought it up"

I doubt it.

'hey come in my office and let's talk about your ex gf at random'

nah.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95528 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:55 am to
O def knew at some point about the claims, but as the situation is presented in the story is a little ridiculous
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
422782 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:56 am to
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there is no talking your way out of it. In no way can this be justified.

as everyone knows, I'm not a Cheeri-O

but that article doesn't really get into the details of the interactions and it's very likely O's comments weren't in relation to a rape

it appears word got out within the team that Guice said he had sex with her, and the story says the victim addressed the team (not coaches). it's very likely the author is splicing in O commenting about the "cheating girlfriend" side of the rumor mill in a way that makes it sound like he was being callous about rape.
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
Member since Dec 2013
11725 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:57 am to
The only rape I witnessed involving Guice was the hit on the punter for Louisville a few years back.
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