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re: Great video of Mike Detillier on LSU’s disconnect from the summer

Posted on 12/10/20 at 7:52 pm to
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 12/10/20 at 7:52 pm to
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everyone said Saban is strict but he is not a dick,


Dude is a major dick.

One of his Miami players was having a seizure in the Dolphins Facility. He walked past, didn't say a word, and kept walking towards his office.
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
26412 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 7:53 pm to
Saban planned it before LSU. Only thing is LSU players did it Friday. Bama had already scheduled there march protest for that Monday when they didn’t have practice.
Posted by TigerNE
Everett, MA
Member since Jul 2013
1162 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 7:55 pm to
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He talked about Nick Saban has guys who keep him up to date on the world news outside of football


Maybe O can hire someone for the shadow staff to read him the headlines every morning.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
55832 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 7:56 pm to
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hat a fricked up statement to make without any proof!


without proof? Have you studied the Black community at all?

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He could learn how to to not let society judge you because you don't have a male figure in your life.


society judges by what you do, how you act...society has no clue about your family, it really doesn't care where you come from, it cares what you offer, how you present yourself

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Seems like you are one of those silver spoon kids!
. yeah, I had it all, I had two parents who to this day have stayed married, 55 years

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"I call a team meeting and I do all the educating of facts to undo what the media has been teaching," that show how ignorant you are, can't be to educated to make a stupid statement like that. Do it my way or else! That's how you lose employees, you talk to your employees not down to them. How can Saban or you educate on facts if you never grew up with a father? don't blame the media.


I didn't word it well, but look as Head coach, I don't let my boys walk around without thinking through their beleifs

I believe in conversation, back and forth

but when I, the head coach has to be defensive with players who are very clearly "young and ignorant" about cases which do not involve them, then I don't let that crap intefere with what we're try to accomplish as a team

I understand blacks don't like police, but much of it is taught rather experienced first hand, (then they don't handle situations right, then they do experience something)

.... the statistics do not support a lot of the talking points "some" black people make like "police are hunting us down"

pretty sure an NBA coach said that...meanwhile more unarmed whites are killed by police than unarmed blacks, nearly double in 2019...

that said, I don't think coaches have the time or the desire to follow these police shooting cases to really be confident in talking about them with the team

but the team, oh yeah they are loaded ready to fight for justice...some how they have a connection to Floyd and Taylor...that's the interesting part in all of this...

I follow political issues closely, these viral cases, I wait until all the hard evidence is made available, then I decide where I stand, what I think about the police actions and the actions of the victim.

I was convinced the police murdered Floyd, then I saw the 3 head cams and came away with a completely different perspective

and that's my point, our youth are being flooded with video and talking points...but it is truth? Their perspective is truth to them...

Being in the public eye and being wrong is very costly...so I understand why coaches avoid it

My main point in all if this is, have a team meeting, air it out but if I am the coach, knowing what I know, and knowing they don't know what they don't know, I am getting my shots in...like a Dad should do... you don't let your sons and daughters believe stuff that is factually inaccurate...

at the end of the day I ask "what did you learn from these victims?" that's the discussion we need

not, 'how to we overhaul the police?" we need to overhaul how to make better choices in life so terrible things do not happen. Coaches do in fact help student athletes...



This post was edited on 12/10/20 at 8:03 pm
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
19355 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:00 pm to
That was great from Mike D. He’s absolutely right and I’m nearly positive that Orgeron is incapable of doing anything that Mike laid out. I don’t care what people say about O.. working man, ace recruiter.. dude is just not very smart. EQ in the crapper. This ain’t 20 years ago when there’s no social media.. you can’t con kids for long.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107805 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:12 pm to
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I just remember how they were going after Dabo at first when he was going through it. He didn’t get the respect back from the players until he spoke in public to everybody at a rally on campus. Coach O comments were short and simple about the situation besides the written release he put out. The players wanted coach O to speak up about it like Joe Burrow did when he spoke up on social injustice.

Im honestly trying to wrap my head around being as soft as these players. I truly am having trouble
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
26412 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:15 pm to
The good thing I see is Coach O can learn from this. After hearing Ryan Clark earlier, he said he deserves another chance and should not be fired. He said the first thing he should do is amend relationships. If he can do that they will have his respect again and will play hard for him. I believe coach O can get good hires on the staff since he can’t afford to make comfortable hires and his back is against the wall. I’m sure this is a learning experience for him and needs to understand he can’t be football coach 100% of the time.

He needs to be a leader and be a father figure to the players. I always hear recruits say we don’t always talk football we also talk about life when they are referring to the position coach that is recruiting that player. Coach O needs to do the same thing in the locker room. LSU hasn’t been this bad since 1999. Even though that team sucked, they always gave it there all every game except the Houston game where it was just over. That year LSU should have beaten Miss St, Bama, and Georgia. LSU came up short at the end of all three games at the last second and I don’t see that fight this year.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107805 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:28 pm to
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He needs to be a leader and be a father figure to the players. I always hear recruits say we don’t always talk football we also talk about life when they are referring to the position coach that is recruiting that player. Coach O needs to do the same thing in the locker room. LSU hasn’t been this bad since 1999. Even though that team sucked, they always gave it there all every game except the Houston game where it was just over. That year LSU should have beaten Miss St, Bama, and Georgia. LSU came up short at the end of all three games at the last second and I don’t see that fight this year.
If you don’t fight for your team and give it your all simply because your coach doesn’t “speak up enough”, you just ain’t got it in you. You can’t make a pit bull by having a golden retriever frick a chihuahua
This post was edited on 12/10/20 at 8:30 pm
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4442 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:48 pm to
The mentality sure has changed. I know when my coaches would say something negative, my attitude was, I’ll show that bastard he’s wrong. That doesn’t exactly happen nowadays.
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
9764 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:09 pm to
Mke D is a blowhard.
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
9764 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:12 pm to
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Just look at the backlash Brees got for simply stating he didn't believe in disrespecting the flag.


Drew folded like a cheap napkin leaving his "honoring of his war vet father and grandfather" just meaningless memories.His words are empty...
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77669 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:13 pm to
Dis Mike Duh-till wit duh Cajun cannon beachside here at da Silva slippa casino in beautiful Hancock county Mississippi
Posted by bobdylan
Cankton
Member since Aug 2018
1566 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:23 pm to
“Let me tell you something cat, I’ve been knowing Bebe Orgeron for 45 years.,,”
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25659 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:31 pm to
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seriously what could Nick Saban learn about life by listening to black athletes who have no father?


You are a sack of dumb racist shite for this comment.
This post was edited on 12/10/20 at 9:31 pm
Posted by SPEEDY
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Member since Dec 2003
86481 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:52 pm to
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I can’t listen to Mike D. The guy rambles way too much.


This
Posted by Drizzt
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Member since Aug 2013
14881 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:59 pm to
If Mike D actually said that shite I lost all respect for him.
This post was edited on 12/10/20 at 10:10 pm
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 10:02 pm to
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seriously what could Nick Saban learn about life by listening to black athletes who have no father?



Please list all the black players at LSU with no father. I'm not aware of any. But since you statement alludes to the fact that a majority don't have fathers. Maybe you could list them because everyone I'm aware of had strong fathers in their lives.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
87474 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 10:03 pm to
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I call a team meeting and I do all the educating of facts to undo what the media has been teaching

I can't deal with ignorance of the facts...




agreed

you whip out all the black on black crimes stats and abortion stats for starters..compare to cops unjustly killing blacks......then the fact BLM is a marxist organization

their whole narrative blows up in their faces and makes them look bad.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293071 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 10:09 pm to
I wouldnt support a fairy tale. The players are selfish, self absorbed and easily influenced.

The entire bunch needs cleared out, the staff and players who apparently can't understand their fairy tales are divisive.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40080 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 10:15 pm to
Yeah and he hired Scott Linehan and Bo Pelini
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