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Irish LSU Fan
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re: Go figure Alabama attorney..
I guess you guys would be in favor of letting everyone out of Angola.....because those folks are suffering from a system that is unfair. You guys are a prime example of what is wrong with society. Do us all a favor and move to the left coast with all of your friends.

Yes, I have children. They have made mistakes. Yes, they had to stand up and accept the consequences for their actions.


GetmorewithLes
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and got hit with the penalty that was clearly in the rules?


This is another bit of misinformation. When KF got investigated the NCAA investigator did not realize it was a two yr suspension. That was in the story when it was released this spring


Irish LSU Fan
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When KF got investigated the NCAA investigator did not realize it was a two yr suspension.

News flash........investigators do not determine the punishment.


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themunch
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dangers of trying


roger79
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You don't like a rule? Get the rule changed. Until it's changed, follow it.


TigerLunatik
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You don't like a rule? Get the rule changed. Until it's changed, follow it.

Been telling my 17 year old since elementary school.


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themunch
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Did the man attempt it or forgo the attempt?

Is he guilty of thinking about it to the point of having a specimen or did he submit the specimen he brought? Did Fulton throw away the specimen or did the tester take it from him? I am not that familiar with the specifics.


I read that he put the specimen in the beaker and then poured it out. Is that right?
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Bmath
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Thug......my term for those who think the rules do not apply to them.


I suspect everytime you drive 5+ mph over the speed limit you feel like the rule doesn’t apply to you. Perhaps when you blow your lawn clippings into the street, you feel like the rule doesn’t apply to you. I bet when you empty your oil pan in the storm drain, you feel like the rule doesn’t apply to you.

How does it feel to be labeled a thug?
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novabill
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Member since Sep 2005
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...Don't recruit thugs


What? You recruit great athletes to win and help them get past these types of problems. Just like Nick does.

Well that is what you do if you want to win championships.

Maybe you don't want that


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tigercross
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I suspect everytime you drive 5+ mph over the speed limit you feel like the rule doesn’t apply to you. Perhaps when you blow your lawn clippings into the street, you feel like the rule doesn’t apply to you. I bet when you empty your oil pan in the storm drain, you feel like the rule doesn’t apply to you. How does it feel to be labeled a thug?


I can easily afford the penalties for any of those violations. I’m not a guy with a chance to make millions if I have the opportunity to show out. The risk/reward is much different in those scenarios.


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Irish LSU Fan
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I bet when you empty your oil pan in the storm drain, you feel like the rule doesn’t apply to you.

Your problem is that you think everyone thinks like you. News flash.....Most of us out here believe in consequences. We believe in responsibility for your decisions. Please go to sleep and lament over your wasted vote for Hillary (or Bernie).


Bmath
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Your problem is that you think everyone thinks like you. News flash.....Most of us out here believe in consequences. We believe in responsibility for your decisions. Please go to sleep and lament over your wasted vote for Hillary (or Bernie).


Your reading comprehension is poor if you boiled down my entire argument into me saying that not only do I not believe in consequences but you also think you figured out who I voted for.

People like you severely lack in critical thinking skills.


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lsu2006
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I guess you guys would be in favor of letting everyone out of Angola.

Yes. Rape and murder = smoking weed in college and trying to get around a drug test
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Yes, I have children. They have made mistakes.

fricking thug pieces of shit


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LSUERDOC
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the coaches and admins and anyone involved with the football program in an adminstrative way screwed up by failing to warn fulton of the dangers of trying to tamper with the test.


You're kidding right? This is the problem with society these days...always someone else's fault.


mlminbtr
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You don't like a rule? Get the rule changed. Until it's changed, follow it.


I agree with this. But, I have the same issue with the law...until it applies evenly to everyone it should not apply to anyone. Now I know this is extreme and i’m certainly not advocating letting everyone out of Angola, but there is a disparity in how NCAA rules are applied and enforced.

It seems to me what Fulton did was break a rule...what Cam Robinson did was break a LAW. Even though the charges were dropped certainly there was a “rules” violation associated with that “criminal” act.
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Dave England
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LSU “literally” wrote a letter supporting Fulton, saying it was LSU’ fault not his.


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OU812
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Follow the rules.....and maybe you won't get in trouble.


Obey the law and the police will let you be.


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OU812
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Look bro don’t throw this guy in the thug category because he probably smoked some fuking weed and got nervous


Last I checked, that is against the law and the rules. Don't want to get suspended or in trouble, follow them!


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OU812
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less than a fricking hour from Bryant Denny. it's a building full of bama grads and it shows in everything they do. imagine if the HQ was in Baker, thats what this essentially is. who do you think would work there? where do you think they would have gone to school? and even if it wasn't intentional, who do you think they would favor? if a choice had to be made between LSU and SCar for example, who do you think would have the edge. it's 20-fricking-18, there's no reason on earth the HQ needs to be regional, for it to be in Birmingham. move that shite to NYC, make things fair for once.


The LHSAA is based in Baton Rouge, so are the Baton Rouge area teams at an advantage, say over North Louisiana teams?


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I20goon
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As I've asked before in other posts (but received no answer), would you feel the same if the player played for Alabama? Or would you be blasting him for being a cheat and daring to get his penalty reduced?
I would feel the same for a Bama or AU player. The rule isn't clear enough (define tampering as opposed to dilution/masking/process) to go with such a harsh penalty (40% of his time on team, realistically 66% of his playing time. The penalty is clearly and unequivocally stated; the infraction is not.

For such a harsh penalty, it should be very very clear what actions define "tampering"; it should not be the catch-all default if one of the other conditions are not met (including "process violation"). For that reason, the poor rule not the team/player, I have a problem with it.

HOWEVER... I would not be here, or anywhere, publicly defending a Bama or AU player rooting for them to win their appeal. I may believe they should... but very quietly. On the other side, I would ALSO NOT be publicly rooting against them here or anywhere else.

Basically I'd be in the corner shaking my head about how fricked up the NCAA is.

On that note... one would think the SEC would also want to see some clearer definitions also. I shake my head at the fact they are silent on the rule. Don't blame them for staying silent on Fulton. But Fulton's representation had some valid points. The SEC should want to see some clarification.


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