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Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:38 pm to sml71
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Linda Moorhouse.
After the way LSU treated her, she wouldn't come back if we begged her to.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:43 pm to Smalls
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LSU’s band was considered one of the best in the nation…for decades.
Depends on the style. You guys always talk about sound only and don’t consider the show.
If you go to a rock concert, do you want to be entertained or just watch formations?
Posted on 6/23/24 at 12:52 am to Smalls
If you want the "Golden Band from Tiger Land" to return to it's former Glory, the first thing that has to happen is to send LSU "Director of Bands" Damon Talley (In charge of all the Symphonic BS) packing and out the door.
Talley doesn't have any Marching Band/Drum Corps experience and could totally care less about Tiger Band.
He's not well liked by Tiger Band Alums either.
We got rid of Todd Queen (Former LSUSOM Dean) and it's time for Talley to get the boot as well.
Who's out there?
I've said on here many times in previous Tiger Band discussions that I'd shoot for the sky and try to hire Jacksonville State Band Director Ken Bodiford. (The current Marching Band Nick Saban) The JSU "Marching Southerners" are the best "Corps Style" and best Non-HBCU in the country. Get Bodiford in here and he'd turn Tiger Band into a force to be reckoned. (Of course he's never take the LSU job unless there were legal promises made to eliminate ALL PIM in Tiger Stadium. The Band would have to the focus at all football games. (As it should be and as it used to be)
Second Choice: Dr. Corey Spurlin of Auburn. (LSU and Tiger Band Alum) The Auburn Band puts out some very creative and entertaining shows.......
Talley doesn't have any Marching Band/Drum Corps experience and could totally care less about Tiger Band.
He's not well liked by Tiger Band Alums either.
We got rid of Todd Queen (Former LSUSOM Dean) and it's time for Talley to get the boot as well.
Who's out there?
I've said on here many times in previous Tiger Band discussions that I'd shoot for the sky and try to hire Jacksonville State Band Director Ken Bodiford. (The current Marching Band Nick Saban) The JSU "Marching Southerners" are the best "Corps Style" and best Non-HBCU in the country. Get Bodiford in here and he'd turn Tiger Band into a force to be reckoned. (Of course he's never take the LSU job unless there were legal promises made to eliminate ALL PIM in Tiger Stadium. The Band would have to the focus at all football games. (As it should be and as it used to be)
Second Choice: Dr. Corey Spurlin of Auburn. (LSU and Tiger Band Alum) The Auburn Band puts out some very creative and entertaining shows.......
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 6/23/24 at 2:19 am to Colonel Flagg
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No one can tell the difference
It doesn’t matter what you can tell. People who know what they are looking at and listening to can see the difference.
The program has slipped down a couple of pegs and is no longer as desirable a destination for perspective music majors, which are the people who really elevate the level of all ensembles, Tiger Band included. I went to LSU on a full music scholarship over several other offers in 1993 because of the strong reputation of the band program and percussion department at the time. When I got the offer, there wasn’t a question of where I would be going. I can guarantee you I wouldn’t make the same decision if I were a graduating senior with the same offer today. I also wouldn’t recommend LSU to a serious musician looking to major in music today. That pains me as an alum, but it’s the truth.
This is a big problem. If it isn’t fixed soon, it will just become harder to do further down the line.
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 2:27 am
Posted on 6/23/24 at 2:39 am to Smalls
DJ Supa Mike, apparently.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 3:27 am to Smalls
As though Frank Wickes was the GOAT. That accolade belongs to William F. Swor.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 3:47 am to misey94
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It doesn’t matter what you can tell. People who know what they are looking at and listening to can see the difference.
The vast majority can’t tell and it because of that change will be slow. This is unless someone is going to donate big money because of it. I just don’t see it really going down that way.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 4:54 am to Tiger1988
quote:Half time is for grabbing another beer and heading to the bathroom. Being loud and having a good sound in the stands is way more important than some silly half time show
Depends on the style. You guys always talk about sound only and don’t consider the show.
If you go to a rock concert, do you want to be entertained or just watch formations?
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 4:55 am
Posted on 6/23/24 at 7:00 am to tigahfan747
When TGBfTL can learn to march straight lines again, that would be great. I was at the LSU v. Tennessee game in 2022 and it wasn’t just their football team that beat the brakes off us. Golden Band could not hold a candle to any band I watched them march against that season. If you were never a band student, especially a member of the Golden Band, you won’t get it. They are the reason I quit buying season tickets. I just cannot watch them anymore. MTBGA!
Posted on 6/23/24 at 9:20 am to Pelican fan99
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Half time is for grabbing another beer and heading to the bathroom. Being loud and having a good sound in the stands is way more important than some silly half time show
Band members will say “half time is game time”. Well, if the show is good, then yeah. I’d rather watch HBCUs than military style marching bands. Just my opinion.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:30 am to Tiger1988
quote:I was in the band I still couldn't care less about half time only the band nerds said stuff like that
Band members will say “half time is game time”. Well, if the show is good, then yeah. I’d rather watch HBCUs than military style marching bands. Just my opinion.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:40 am to sml71
The list begins and ends at Moorhouse
To this day I cannot fathom how we pushed her away
To this day I cannot fathom how we pushed her away
Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:49 am to The Boat
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But people have to realize the point of the School of Music was to destroy the Frank Wickes lineage so they could control the band how they wanted so that was never going to happen. Plus Spurlin knows what's going on and is too smart to get involved in that.
Would someone mind explaining this saga in detail to someone who has zero information about any of this?
Posted on 6/23/24 at 2:15 pm to sml71
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Linda Moorhouse
Why not have the athletic department hire and pay the Tiger Band director and make that position the highest paid position in the School of Music - and high enough to lure Linda back to LSU from Illinois or Auburn's director? While we're at it, just give one of those two control of the entire School of Music.
Someone email the AD and LSU's Pres.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 3:29 pm to The Boat
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The Boat
No cap
Posted on 6/23/24 at 3:46 pm to Pelican fan99
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Half time is for grabbing another beer and heading to the bathroom. Being loud and having a good sound in the stands is way more important than some silly half time show
Pregame and the stands tunes are for the fans. Halftime is more for the band itself than the fans. Sure, you want to put on a good show, but it’s also a tool. It’s training for future band directors, both undergrads in music ed and graduate assistants, and a way to keep brining in good musicians to your program.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 3:58 pm to Tiger1988
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Band members will say “half time is game time”. Well, if the show is good, then yeah. I’d rather watch HBCUs than military style marching bands. Just my opinion.
Many will agree, but the fact is the majority of high school bands still march corp style and there is a higher level of this style with Drum Corps International. I would recommend taking a look at what these groups can do if you find the typical college band too boring. This is the style that the majority of competitive high schools are still using, so it’s what the majority of band students know from school and what the vast majority of music ed students will gravitate toward for training.
And if you think this is an activity on the decline, you would be wrong. While fine arts programs have unfortunately been cut in a lot of schools, there is actually a growing number of high school band programs competing at high levels. Bands of America just announced that they have a record number of pre-season applications for their regional and super-regional events and Grand Nationals this season. I know because my daughter is a senior in a program that makes finals at the regional and super regional they have gone to the last three seasons.
My point is there’s a reason why marching band programs don’t ever switch styles, even if some fans would prefer it.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 4:08 pm to The Boat
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But people have to realize the point of the School of Music was to destroy the Frank Wickes lineage so they could control the band how they wanted so that was never going to happen. Plus Spurlin knows what's going on and is too smart to get involved in that.
Trust me, I know how things have been run at the School of Music and the infighting that has hurt the band program. However, I have some hope for the future. Eric Lau, the new Dean of the School of Music, may start to change this. He was in the same class as me and is a strong musician and has done great things since graduating. He was right there at a peak in the program under Wickes and when Linda returned from her doctoral studies. He knows how good the band program was in the past and is a saxophonist, so he was directly involved in Tiger Band and Wind Ensemble.
This isn’t a guarantee of change, especially if the administration doesn’t give him the freedom and funds to do it. However, I do think he will make decisions to strengthen the program rather than just seek to control it through yes men and engage in unprofessional hit jobs like what happened to Roy.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 4:09 pm to misey94
Here is what really happened......As soon as Frank retired, the school of music "stole" the "Tiger Band Honors" scholarships from the Tiger Band. These scholarships brought in very talented non-music major students to the Tiger Band from out-of-state. But that was not enough for the school of music....they also "stole" the Tiger Band's budget....that fight is what got Roy fired. Nearly every out-of-state Tiger Band student was on this scholarship. The school of music (with the assistance of the upper administration) are corrupt. Yes, some of these a$$holes are now gone, but some (Damon Talley) are still there.
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