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Posted on 6/25/18 at 12:55 pm to BamaHater
Good for him.
I don't think anyone should have any personal animosity towards Jones. He was a good guy and proud alum. He had limitations as a HC and never should have gotten the LSU job in the first place. But I blame Alleva for that, not necessarily Jones.
The SWAC is a good spot for him. He his still a solid recruiter and knows Texas (particularly Houston/Dallas). No program in that league is particularly "well coached", so his coaching limitations are probably minimized. He could have similar success as the coach he is replacing, Mike Davis. The stage was far too big for Davis at Indiana. He had decent success at UAB before being let go, then did fairly well at TSU.
Jones was in over his head at LSU. That doesn't mean he isn't still a part of the LSU family, nor that he can't have success at a program where he is better suited.
I don't think anyone should have any personal animosity towards Jones. He was a good guy and proud alum. He had limitations as a HC and never should have gotten the LSU job in the first place. But I blame Alleva for that, not necessarily Jones.
The SWAC is a good spot for him. He his still a solid recruiter and knows Texas (particularly Houston/Dallas). No program in that league is particularly "well coached", so his coaching limitations are probably minimized. He could have similar success as the coach he is replacing, Mike Davis. The stage was far too big for Davis at Indiana. He had decent success at UAB before being let go, then did fairly well at TSU.
Jones was in over his head at LSU. That doesn't mean he isn't still a part of the LSU family, nor that he can't have success at a program where he is better suited.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 12:57 pm to lsufball19
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so why is it bad that he got a better job?
Like someone already said, feel bad for the kids at tsu because now the absolute best case scenario for them is jones figures out how to lead them to the mediocrity he achieved at north Texas.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 12:58 pm to BamaHater
He can probably do well there. No pressure and can probably recruit some decent players for a SWAC level team. Hope he does well he just wasn’t cut out to be a major programs head coach
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:01 pm to Open Your Eyes
quote:dude it’s TSU mediocrity would be perfectly fine there
Like someone already said, feel bad for the kids at tsu because now the absolute best case scenario for them is jones figures out how to lead them to the mediocrity he achieved at north Texas.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:02 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Like someone already said, feel bad for the kids at tsu because now the absolute best case scenario for them is jones figures out how to lead them to the mediocrity he achieved at north Texas.
This is ridiculous. Just finishing with an overall record over .500 is an accomplishment for most SWAC schools.
Plus you're making it seem like North Texas has any relevant basketball history to criticize him against.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:03 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Like someone already said, feel bad for the kids at tsu because now the absolute best case scenario for them is jones figures out how to lead them to the mediocrity he achieved at north Texas.
So you really feel bad for Texas State players? Really? I have my doubts you care about them one way or the other but rather just feel the need to trash Johnny Jones because he wasn't successful at LSU. Maybe just take the high road and hope a former Tiger who was nothing but class, regardless of his deficiencies as a coach, is successful instead of being a dick?
I mean this is a bottom of the barrel D1 coaching job for goodness sake.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:06 pm to Pelican fan99
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dude it’s TSU mediocrity would be perfectly fine there
Tsu made it to the NCAA tournament 4 of the last 5 years, and the NIT the other year.
In 17 years as a head coach Jones has led his teams to the NCAA tournament 3 times and the NIT once.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:09 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Tsu made it to the NCAA tournament 4 of the last 5 years, and the NIT the other year.
With a Final Four coach at the helm. They still had double-digit losses every one of those years. Hell, they had a losing record last season.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:10 pm to nicholastiger
quote:Not sure what Jones was making as an assistant, but Davis made $250,000 his last couple of years at TSU. Jones is a good hire for TSU, but he will be hard-pressed to better Davis' record of four NCAA tournament appearances in five seasons.
Probably a paycut
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:14 pm to lsufball19
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maybe that is better than what they've had? They had a head coaching vacancy for a reason. Mediocrity for them would be a step in the right direction.
Just shows your ignorance of how bad of a head coach jones is, what tsu has done lately, and/or both.
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So you really feel bad for Texas State players? Really? I have my doubts you care about them one way or the other
Probably equally as much as you really care about whether or not Johnny jones has a job any more or less than any of the hundreds of thousands of other people that went to Lsu that you don't know and have never met.
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rather just feel the need to trash Johnny Jones because he wasn't successful at LSU
His resume speaks for itself.
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Maybe just take the high road and hope a former Tiger who was nothing but class, regardless of his deficiencies as a coach, is successful instead of being a dick?
Why should I care any more or less about this 1 "former tiger who was nothing but class" than any of the other hundreds of thousands of people that can say the same. He was an absolutely terrible coach and his impact at Lsu was a net negative, why should anyone have to be happy for him?
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:17 pm to BamaHater
JJ always had SWAC and I don't mean SWAG!
He was always that kind of coach, and certainly never an SEC caliber HC.
I wish him well, but as for Dale Brown's cabal and what they have wrought upon LSU, probation and undermining, I am glad to be rid of this group.
Dale Brown and his Court Jesters, how appropriate!!!
He was always that kind of coach, and certainly never an SEC caliber HC.
I wish him well, but as for Dale Brown's cabal and what they have wrought upon LSU, probation and undermining, I am glad to be rid of this group.
Dale Brown and his Court Jesters, how appropriate!!!
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:29 pm to BamaHater
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This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:31 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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According to Chinyohang JJ was the reason Nevada was successful this season,
Yep, perennial early exits from the tourney. Johnny goes there, and they make a deep run.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:33 pm to lsufball19
Johnny Jones was nowhere near the terrible coach some make him out to be. He did not have the great results we all wanted, but his tenure was marked by much more success than failure.
Jones has always bled purple and gold and still does. We should all wish him well in his new job and respect his contributions to LSU during its incredible climb to the top and his effors as head coach. College basketball needs his classiness.
Jones has always bled purple and gold and still does. We should all wish him well in his new job and respect his contributions to LSU during its incredible climb to the top and his effors as head coach. College basketball needs his classiness.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:34 pm to BamaHater
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TSU
Isn't Haywood the TSU head football coach a former LSU coach as well?
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:34 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Why should I care any more or less about this 1 "former tiger who was nothing but class" than any of the other hundreds of thousands of people that can say the same. He was an absolutely terrible coach and his impact at Lsu was a net negative, why should anyone have to be happy for him?
so basically, you're just an a-hole. Gotcha
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:36 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Like someone already said, feel bad for the kids at tsu because now the absolute best case scenario for them is jones figures out how to lead them to the mediocrity he achieved at north Texas
NTU was largely a dog shite program before Jones arrived. They've been a dog shite program since he left. That's why the HC who replaced Jones at NTU is now on LSU's staff. Because couldn't maintain the relative level of success Jones had at NTU. Jones at least had them competing during his time there
I think I'm at the front of the line arguing that Jones should have never been hired as LSU's HC. But that doesn't mean he (a) can't have decent success at TSU or (b) that it is a bad hire.
Mike Davis had a nice run at TSU. But even during that run he usually had a horrible record vs. anyone other than SWAC opponents (last year they went 0-13 to start the season). Plus, could TSU have done any better at this point in the off season? They didn't fire Davis. He left them three weeks ago. Not a lot of coaches are willing to make a move right in the middle of preparing for the next season.
Finally, it's not exactly an attractive job. The SWAC is traditionally one of, if not the worst conference in D1 basketball. TSU's athletic dept is flat broke. In fact, they generally have to start the season by getting their arse kicked every time out because they play EVERY non-conf game on the road against FAR better teams just to fund their program.
They lose a successful coach late in the year and are able to hire a guy who, at minimum, has had some degree of success in turning around a mid-major program and knows the recruiting landscape well. I'd say that is a win for them.
Just because Jones wasn't good enough to be LSU's HC, doesn't mean he can't find success at TSU.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:41 pm to BamaHater
Ok, I'll do it:
"They got the best coach out there, who was right under our noses. This is his dream job. He always wanted this opportunity. I know he has a bad record, but he has CHANGED! He's no longer the same man! He'll bring championships to er, uh...TSU!"
"They got the best coach out there, who was right under our noses. This is his dream job. He always wanted this opportunity. I know he has a bad record, but he has CHANGED! He's no longer the same man! He'll bring championships to er, uh...TSU!"
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:42 pm to BamaHater
Good lick to a former tiger! He is perfect fit for non-power 5 schools and as an assistant for bigger programs
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