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re: For those that think Nuss has played "fine," go watch Flynn break him down on OTB

Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:26 am to
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
13006 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:26 am to
He’s not playing good and big disappointment.

But let’s not gloss over the fact that he’s getting absolutely blasted on every play. Not barely touched or shoved, he’s getting annihilated on every pass.

It’s bad all the way around.
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
7856 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:27 am to
To be honest, I don't know how any QB other than a JD or even a Pavia, Mahonnes, could possibly be effective with this oline. Pass blocking grade was 40 for the entire line...much less for our tackles. And it is not even passing mis reads, which there were plenty, but the blocking and play design is just incredibly awful. They pointed out many of the play calls and design for player's job on each play, and it is incredibly awful. So is Nuss not playing great, no I agree with you, but there is no way to tell just how good Nuss is with the problems with the rest of the team, which doesn't give him the opportunity to succeed. Play calls, play designs, lack of even blocking the right person on any given play....all of it makes the QB job almost impossible. And add to that the pathetic routed tree in our passing game....really pathetic,
Nuss is not playing well, but imo, he is doing his job considerably better than anyone else of the offensive team.....and it all comes back to coaching which is beyond pathetic.....and Matt pointed it out quite clearly.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22872 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:32 am to
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To be honest, I don't know how any QB other than a JD or even a Pavia, Mahonnes, could possibly be effective with this oline.


The same way Burrow did. Understanding pre-snap assignments, checking into the right play, and punishing the defense for bringing pressure. If your QB can do that, the other team is going to get out of blitzes and pass blocking becomes easier.

Too many are of the opinion that either the OL is bad OR Nuss is bad. It's not an either or. The OL has been absolutely putrid. But that doesn't excuse Nuss's poor play. Both are playing bad football right now. The OL is no doubt worse, but Nuss is not playing well. And it has nothing to do with his physical play or injury. He's not understanding basic concepts.
Posted by ForeverLSU5
Member since Mar 2019
2143 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:40 am to
Sloan is AWFUL at getting the play in timely. Which in turn gives Nuss less time to make reads and move guys around. That has been a HUGE issue this year. Nuss is FAR from the problem with this team. He's about the offense's 5th biggest issue right now behind Sloan, O Line, Receivers dropping balls, and clock management.
Posted by StGeorgeTiger
Member since Sep 2024
781 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:44 am to
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The same way Burrow did.


What OL won the award for Best OL in CFB that year?? How many OL were drafted that year?? How many 1st Round draft picks did we have at WR?? Add in a 2nd Round WR. There’s not even a WR on this team that will be drafted before the 4th round, if that. Minus our C, this is the worst OL I have seen since 99. That team was riddled with injuries.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22872 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:44 am to
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Sloan is AWFUL at getting the play in timely. Which in turn gives Nuss less time to make reads and move guys around. That has been a HUGE issue this year. Nuss is FAR from the problem with this team. He's about the offense's 5th biggest issue right now behind Sloan, O Line, Receivers dropping balls, and clock management.


Go watch the video. Nuss is pulling it and throwing the smoke screen against 5 man boxes. That's inexcusable. It does not take 15 seconds to identify a 5 man box. As Flynn and Hester state in the video, that ball should be handed off 100 out of 100 times.

Those other things are absolutely issues, and I'm not at all suggesting that if Nuss made the correct pre-snap reads the offense would suddenly be putting up 40 points a game. I'm just pointing out how poorly Nuss has been at the cerebral part of the game. Something you would expect from a freshman QB. Something that simply cannot happen from a 5th year QB.
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
2242 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:46 am to
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Nuss not using the fancy state of the art VR


Where has this been reported?
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10880 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:48 am to
He hasn’t shown any improvement since I first saw him play a few years ago. He still can’t get set to throw. He refuses to scramble for yards when the whole stadium can see it open. He never looks confident. A QB coach’s kid should be better this far in his career.

However, we have no real elite WRs. We have some speed guys that get open sometimes. Our OL is awful and injured. They don’t allow any play to develop. The comments this summer about us being better at the OL were laughable. We aren’t a very good team.
Posted by TigerFanFromBama
Pike Road, AL
Member since Mar 2015
4719 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:49 am to
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Nussmeier is getting hammered every time he drops back.


Even when Nuss has a halfway decent pocket... he keeps anticipating getting hit which results in him bracing his body while trying to throw the ball.

He's been short-arm'ing throws and throwing off his back foot all season.

If he cant sit in the pocket and deliver the throw with some damn courage, then go sit on the bench, and give MVB an opportunity.

Posted by TigerGrad03
Member since Dec 2024
998 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:50 am to
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Matt Flynn who has probably spent a little more time in a film room and understands how to play the QB position better than 99% of the population.


This is 100% true, but it also means he is going to focus heavily on the QB and put more emphasis on everything the QB does.

Honest question, if we had last year's OL right now, would we be 5-2? If you answer is yes, then Nuss is the problem. If your answer is no, then you found the main issue.
Posted by extremelsu
Member since Aug 2013
5824 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:51 am to
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it really looks like he just doesn’t enjoy football
huh? Have you seen this guy celebrate touchdowns? Celebrate jayden daniels? Some of yall say the stupidest shite
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14181 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:52 am to
Nobody is convinced Nuss has played fine.
Which QB plays great with no running game, no OL, and average receivers.
His game did improve when Green was made a part of the offense. Who knows, if he had a Nabers and or Thomas on the field.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16544 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:52 am to
Please provide a list of QBs that have been successful with a bad OC, horrible OL and no run game.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22872 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:53 am to
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Honest question, if we had last year's OL right now, would we be 5-2? If you answer is yes, then Nuss is the problem. If your answer is no, then you found the main issue.


There can be more than one problem. Honest question, if we had JD or Burrow this year, would we be 5-2? If you answer yes, then the OL is the problem. See how that works? The OL is god awful AND Nuss is making mistakes that a 5th year QB cannot make. Both are major issues.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38934 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:53 am to
A competent QB would fix 90% of the problems with this team. Nuss is just flat out bad
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36496 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:59 am to
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Argue with the PFF numbers, genius.



Who does the PFF numbers and how many plays do they sample?
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16544 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:59 am to
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A competent QB would fix 90% of the problems with this team. Nuss is just flat out bad

So he'd fix the OL blocking? If you say yes, if the QB was athletic, then tell me why Sellers, a Heisman hopeful sucks this season.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22872 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:59 am to
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Please provide a list of QBs that have been successful with a bad OC, horrible OL and no run game.


Maybe, just maybe, Nuss has contributed to making our OC, OL, and running game look worse. He's pulling the ball and throwing smoke screens against a 5 man box. You know how you improve your running game? You hand the ball off when you have numbers in the box. These are simple things that makes the entire team better. He's not doing them.
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3082 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 11:06 am to
This O-line is garbage. Davis should have been gone long before this year.

The playcalling is shite - Sloan should never been given the OC duties

Nuss is not playing like a 5th year senior. His decision making has been bad, his pre-snap reads are bad, his post snap reads are bad, he is playing scared bc he gets hammered on most plays..

Also
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Nuss not using the fancy state of the art VR
is this correct? if so, there is your answer for why this team and Nuss is what it is..

I have been a BK supporter.. this game changed that, i am done with him. i think one of either sloan or davis is gone after this year, if i had to guess, i would say sloan. IMO the entire Offensive staff needs to go.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16544 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 11:13 am to
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Maybe, just maybe, Nuss has contributed to making our OC, OL, and running game look worse. He's pulling the ball and throwing smoke screens against a 5 man box. You know how you improve your running game? You hand the ball off when you have numbers in the box. These are simple things that makes the entire team better. He's not doing them.

Well he was a 4K yard passer last season as a 1st time starter and arguably less talent at WR. He made plenty of mistakes, but he was able to move the ball despite an absent run game. LSU was near the top of CFB in 3rd down efficiency despite not being able to run the ball. red zone was still bad though. One dimensional teams will always falter at some point.
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