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re: For those off the BK bus, what would you have preferred?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 6:20 am to BearCrocs
Posted on 9/5/24 at 6:20 am to BearCrocs
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Although a failed GM at the pro level, I’m sure he is a great recruiter in college and has prestige behind his name.
No. There’s a reason the Texans went 11-38 before last year. He was complete arse as a coach.
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 6:31 am to John cocktoasten
This 10 wins you speak of counts a meaningless bowl win each season.
Regular season wins are all that matters now.
Regular season wins are all that matters now.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 6:41 am to Big4SALTbro
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BK was the ultra safe hire with a high floor and low ceiling
His ceiling is low based on what?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 6:47 am to lsupicker
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Kiffin
This. Although what I think CBK is building is more sustainable. Kiffin needs NIL to be successful.
CBK needs to make better coordinator hires to be successful. Would love to see this current team with Denbrock and Baker steering the ship
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:05 am to okietiger
A competent AD that didn’t jump all over his second choice and screw us with a ridiculous contract to a coach that was on his way out.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:25 am to Big4SALTbro
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Hugh wasnt rehabbed enough
what a crock of shite excuse from sankey and the SEC.
we passed on a 3 time natty champ and the 2nd best coach in the nation only behind the GOAT saban.
C orch
U rban
M eyer
woodward is too chickenshit to make a splash hire like this
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 7:38 am
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:25 am to John cocktoasten
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Do you and the majority of your friends that like this post realize how stupid this is after 2 10 win seasons in a row? Don’t let the fact get in the way of your idiocy.
He’s had two straight seasons of 9 regular season wins and then played a couple bowl games to get to get there and bowl games count for shite now. And frankly, with the 12 team playoff, if you fail to make the playoffs, you had a shitty fricking season.
We wouldn’t have made even the 12 team playoffs either season the past two seasons.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 7:40 am
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:29 am to grizzlylongcut
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And frankly, with the 12 team playoff, if you fail to make the playoffs, you had a shitty fricking season.
yup. this is not BCS days of a top 2 or even 4 team playoff anymore. we did not just jump from a 4 teamer to 8. we went full retard all the way to 12. if he cannot make playoffs now he can hit the road. zero excuses. unfortunately we are stuck until a 6th or 7th year with him if i had to guess regardless of his results! if he cannot win a natty after two retards did he will be a complete failure.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 7:31 am
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:43 am to josh336
Based on his entire career and his bad big game record.
BK usually beats those he is suppose to outside of one year at ND. He flops on the big stage as need by his time at ND. He didn’t win a NC there and his one time in the national title game might have been more embarrassing than les miles 1/9 debacle.
If you have 0 titles in 25 plus years as the head man I’d say ceiling is low. He has been in the game a long time he is what he is.
He has rebuilt our recruiting and he looks to have stabilized us. It’s just going to be hard to get a nc if you can’t win multiple big games a year.
BK usually beats those he is suppose to outside of one year at ND. He flops on the big stage as need by his time at ND. He didn’t win a NC there and his one time in the national title game might have been more embarrassing than les miles 1/9 debacle.
If you have 0 titles in 25 plus years as the head man I’d say ceiling is low. He has been in the game a long time he is what he is.
He has rebuilt our recruiting and he looks to have stabilized us. It’s just going to be hard to get a nc if you can’t win multiple big games a year.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:15 am to Alt26
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Absolutely! The same ones bitching about the contracts are the same ones who would be bitching if LSU didn't make a "splash hire". I hate to break it to them, the big time coaches hold ALL of the leverage in the negotiations. The reason is because fans/donors demand immediate, big, success, and the supply of guys out there who have a history of such is fairly small. The initial contract is often not the "sin". It's the often unnecessary extension that gets schools in a bind. Jimbo signed a 10 year $75M contract in 2018. Were that contract still in place he wouldn't even be in the top 15 of the highest paid coaches in terms of annual salary. However, were A&M fricked up was extending the contract and giving him a $1.5M raise after just 3 seasons. A&M allowed Jimbo to leverage a 9-1 "covid season" into an extension. Orgeron had ZERO viable market outside of LSU after 2019. Yet, that didn't stop LSU from giving him a big raise they had to eat 1.5 years later.
It's amazing some people don't get it.
They also don't understand that an established coach at a relevant program can now demand guaranteed money.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:16 am to Big4SALTbro
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might have been more embarrassing than les miles 1/9 debacle.
Let me stop you right there...
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:53 am to Big4SALTbro
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If you have 0 titles in 25 plus years as the head man I’d say ceiling is low.
He has two natties in that time period at the Division II level.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:56 am to kbtigers85
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Your problem seems to be the same one Scott Woodward has. You only look at big names and flashy hires. There’s other guys out there that wouldn’t have had to hitch our wagon to for 10 years and $100mil.
People say this but never give any names.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:08 am to Fat Bastard
quote:Name someone on the list I posted that is not going to require that type of contract.
so you are telling me that the contract will pose no issues if and when we want to fire him and buy him out? i call BS. it is a huge issue. thus people bitching about it. miles and O shoulda never got extensions. nobody wanted either. we got fleeced in all that buyout money. just dumb contracts and decisions.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:20 am to okietiger
My #1 choice was Kiffin, but I didn't know BK was available. If I'd known that, BK would have been my choice. And I still think BK will win multiple national titles at LSU.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:28 am to okietiger
This is a false premise. I am down on Kelly because he has not operated like an elite coach, which is what we believed we paid top dollar for. He has not recruited, staffed, or coached at a top 10 program level.
That does not mean that he was not a good hire, and possibly the best hire, a the time. It's hard to seriously argue that Kiffin would not be been better at LSU right now than Kelly. But before the 2023 season Kelly was considered a better coach than Kiffin.
So the hire was solid, but the performance has been mediocre. LSU did not pay for mediocre.
That does not mean that he was not a good hire, and possibly the best hire, a the time. It's hard to seriously argue that Kiffin would not be been better at LSU right now than Kelly. But before the 2023 season Kelly was considered a better coach than Kiffin.
So the hire was solid, but the performance has been mediocre. LSU did not pay for mediocre.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:28 am to tigahlovah
They were never going to hire a behavioral problem like Kiffin or Freeze after what they went through with O plus the Title IX suit.
Kelly was by far the best available coach and that he didn’t win a title at Notre Dame is not an indictment.
Kelly did frick up with his initial defensive staff but he didn’t double down on it. Also his first 18 months or so our NIL game was behind, that’s not his fault and that’s not the case now.
Harbaugh went 10-3, 10-3, 8-5 to start his Michigan career and look how that ended.
Kelly was by far the best available coach and that he didn’t win a title at Notre Dame is not an indictment.
Kelly did frick up with his initial defensive staff but he didn’t double down on it. Also his first 18 months or so our NIL game was behind, that’s not his fault and that’s not the case now.
Harbaugh went 10-3, 10-3, 8-5 to start his Michigan career and look how that ended.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 11:00 am
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:31 am to ATLTiger24
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hard to seriously argue that Kiffin would not be been better at LSU right now than Kelly.
What are you basing this on?
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 10:33 am
Posted on 9/5/24 at 11:12 am to TigerKnights
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Urban Meyer
So he could fake a health issue and quit when things get tough
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