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re: For all those who blame Joe Alleva (or King) for the Wade situation....

Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:16 pm to
Posted by ithad2bme
Houston transplant from B.R.
Member since Sep 2008
3541 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:16 pm to
I didn't read any of that, but downvote 596 for your stupid wall of text.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:17 pm to
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What do you think is the reason they (JA & FKING) have not reinstated WW?

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Why? Who knows?

This is my point. I don't think LSU was looking for a reason to suspend WW. Do you?
Don't you think LSU wants WW to coach the team?
Do you think LSU is enjoying all of this negative press coverage?
I think LSU was/is desperate to have WW coach his team in the tournament. But as we sit here tonight, WW remains suspended. Why??? I think it is because LSU and the NCAA know more than we all know about this situation (and it is probably not good). Otherwise, WW would be coaching LSU in the sweet 16. What other reason would LSU have to keep their coach suspended???
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
98770 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:19 pm to
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Do you think LSU is enjoying all of this negative press coverage?

I wonder sometimes with the dumb shite Alleva says in the media.
Posted by taf
Kansas City, KS
Member since Dec 2003
778 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:38 pm to
This is your problem right there.
You give them too much credit. You might think they know what they’re doing.
Sometimes the people in charge don’t know what they’re doing. Sometimes the media or police or other normally trusted folks aren’t careful or sometimes they are downright dishonest.

Do you remember the Duke lacrosse scandal? Everyone was so sure those “evil” lacrosse players had abused that poor “student.” But it turns out police, investigators, and the DA made shite up and ignored truth. And Alleva jumped to conclusions due to media pressure and fired the lax coach. Sound familiar?

Maybe Wade did exactly what is alleged. But maybe not. I don’t believe any unconfirmed report any more. I saw some poster earlier say that such skepticism is “desperation” with regard to Wade. I call it prudent. Wait until all information comes out.

And please don’t say say Wade wouldn’t “talk to his boss.” LSU unnecessarily created a circumstances that ensured he wouldn’t be able to meet with them. Self inflicted and totally unnecessary.

And the whole hypocrisy thing is a totally different issue for another discussion.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131608 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:49 pm to
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I don't think LSU was looking for a reason to suspend WW. Do you?
There is a 100% chance LSU did not look for a reason not to suspend him.
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Don't you think LSU wants WW to coach the team?
I think FKing couldn't care less.
Meanwhile, rumor has it EarringWilliams has a very ugly reason for anti-Wade sentiment.
So between the two, that answer would lean "no".
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Do you think LSU is enjoying all of this negative press coverage?
I think FKing was short-sighted enough, incompetent enough, and clueless enough to believe suspending Wade would generate positive press coverage. He had no idea as to how this would go down. He had no idea people like Vitale would actually use Wade's suspension as an excuse to further sully LSU. Just as FKing had no clue about the LesMiles' PR situation going into the TexasA&M game, or the PR nightmare in the Vandy game to seal the SEC Championship.
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I think it is because LSU and the NCAA know more than we all know about this situation
Not a chance !
To believe that, you'd have to believe (a) the NCAA and LSU were somehow able to thoroughly differentiate Smart and Wade's situations, (b) the information came to LSU immediately upon the Yahoo release, and outside of the Dawkins leak, and (c) the information somehow warrants suspension, but not dismissal.

None of that makes any sense.
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WW would be coaching LSU in the sweet 16. What other reason would LSU have to keep their coach suspended???
The reason?
Hand wringing. An insecure, incompetent, vacillating FKing President, and a BOS Chair who would prefer a coach with a higher melanocyte count.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
107725 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:52 pm to
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This is my point. I don't think LSU was looking for a reason to suspend WW. Do you?
Don't you think LSU wants WW to coach the team?
Do you think LSU is enjoying all of this negative press coverage?
I think LSU was/is desperate to have WW coach his team in the tournament. But as we sit here tonight, WW remains suspended. Why??? I think it is because LSU and the NCAA know more than we all know about this situation (and it is probably not good). Otherwise, WW would be coaching LSU in the sweet 16. What other reason would LSU have to keep their coach suspended???


What’s the reason he’s not fired then?

What is there possibly gained by this goofy limbo situation?
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36951 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:59 pm to
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I know the company line, but tell me why he can’t issue a statement (even through his attorney) that says, “The article by yahoo is false, fake news


What is there to deny?
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36951 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:02 pm to
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Do you think LSU is enjoying all of this negative press coverage


Sometimes fools fall into it unintentionally. Do you really think they thought they were going to be getting the negative coverage?
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
57103 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:48 pm to
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The transcripts are pretty clear - he was offering to pay Smart's family to get him to LSU


bullshite
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22631 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:07 pm to
Dude, The administration fricked this up and from What I am hearing from a BOS member other members are starting to realize the shite show was brought on by two morons
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9278 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:21 am to
You are such an idiot idk where to begin. So if you had a conversation with a buddy and your buddy brought up someone else that rapped some girl and you comment on the rape while someone records you then they produced a partial tape of that conversation that made you sound like the rapist and at the same time some girl accuses you of rape then suddenly the tape is given to the cops and the media for all to hear would you be guilty or set up to sound guilty? You would likey be charged with this crime but when they find out you were at work offshore during these events you would finally be freed from all charges. Would you want people to still say he’s guilty with only circumstantial evidence? Of course not and that’s why we have a justice system in place you moron. Discussing something is far different than actually doing something arse clown.

My goodness it’s like you people don’t actually have a brain. There are so many different scenarios which could come out of this yet you dead heads can only think of one? WW wasn’t caught on tape he was set up and this was leaked right before the tourney for a purpose. This wasn’t incidental. If WW was guilty of course it wouldn’t matter to anyone if other teams were doing it, why would we care about other teams? What people are pissed about is that LSU is being drug through the mud on this while others are getting a complete pass, for now, which is still bias AF. We are the only school which has suspended its coach for far less crimes. We are the only school which the national sports media is hating on or doubting bc of allegations that were likely maliciously leaked by our enemy or foe. This was purposely done to hurt LSU and it’s basketball program and our AD has bent the knee to our enemy, essentially. That’s why people are pissed the hell off and it’s for damn good reasons. DV can go to hell. That guy will get what’s coming to him. What a piece of trash this guy is. Non recyclable trash, the kind that’s bad for the earth and it’s inhabitants.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 1:34 am
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
20396 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 4:56 am to
Ok Joe’s wife... your son is an asswhipe
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69991 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 6:26 am to
Eat a dick Buda
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:01 am to
DVDR

GFY, douche.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133811 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:59 am to
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NC_Tigah


Bringing information, context and logic to this thread.


Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133811 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:03 am to
The Alleva morning crew entered this thread and added around 20 upvotes to the OP.

How some people support this self-interested and self-preserving admin and still call themselves LSU fans is beyond comprehension.
Posted by That LSU Guy
PVB
Member since Jul 2008
14106 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:12 am to
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I'm not reading all of that shite

And no one else here will either

Eat a dick and this downvote
Could have locked the thread after this.
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:16 am to
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The Alleva morning crew entered this thread and added around 20 upvotes to the OP.

I wonder if they get paid for up/downvoting as well as for posting. If so, maybe not a bad gig for a broke college student.

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How some people support this self-interested and self-preserving admin and still call themselves LSU fans is beyond comprehension.

It's not really beyond your comprehension. You alluded to it above...


What's really astounding is that they're too tone deaf to recognize that deploying trolls here isn't moving the needle of public opinion, and if anything it's backfiring and creating even more opposition.

Joe just can't seem to wrap his mind around the idea that trashing Wade isn't making him any friends or earning him any sympathy. If it has any effect, it's that it's pissing people off even more.

It's as if the manner in which most of us would have liked him to handle the situation has never even occurred to him.

He thinks it's a zero-sum game between he and Wade, and that the stupid fans will inevitably side with one or the other. Hence the barrage of dimwitted trolls.

His best interests at this point would be to resign and save at least some face. Whatever goodwill existed for him is long gone now after his petty attacks on the popular, young, successful coach.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 8:43 am
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3649 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:35 am to
Obviously the relationship between an AD and Head coach at a university is different than a small business owner and his employees or office manager and staff. In general a good coach will make more than the AD and has autonomy to run the program as he sees fit ext. A head coach is more akin to a CEO, while the AD is the vice president of the board. It is just annoying that you are conflating how this situation should be handled by Wade in the same way you would handle a rumor your line cook spit in someones salad.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131608 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:35 am to
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The Alleva morning crew entered this thread and added around 20 upvotes to the OP.
At 4¢/vote, someone nearly made a fast buck. Hey, every little thing.
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