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re: F. KIng Alexander Speaks on Miles Decision

Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31513 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:38 pm to
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Our academics are struggling to stay afloat yet we were fine with ponying up 20+mil to make a football coaching change?


yes, football money from private donations. how is that hard to understand?
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55255 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:41 pm to
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I don't agree with this. If you are solely basing it on winning a mythical title, then maybe. But only 5 schools have won one since LSU and they all pay top dollar. But if you look at the grand scheme of things and see how much the program is worth and that they lead the sec in ticket sales, then LSU is actually getting a good return on that investment.




Yours is indeed a valid opinion, along with my opinion.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55255 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:42 pm to
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yes, football money from private donations. how is that hard to understand?



Pres Alex was right when he told us that MOST people in La. would NOT understand !

Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30331 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:43 pm to
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Smart decision. People will blast him, but it's still real money people. Our academics are struggling to stay afloat yet we were fine with ponying up 20+mil to make a football coaching change? I mean people have to have some kind of perspective here.



You're the kind of moron Alexander was talking about not understanding where the money comes from.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:44 pm to
His whole argument against rubber stamping Miles' termination is based on the ignorance of our thick skulled population.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55255 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:48 pm to
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That's a complete lack of leadership right there.



Let this be a lesson. Never expect a man that has spent his life in Academics to be a great leader. His profession never required him to be a leader. His profession never trained him to be a leader. His profession does not reward Leadership.

Don't expect leadership from people working in academia.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13499 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:49 pm to
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ironic after he made the decision to keep the most successful coach in program history after going 5-3 in the toughest division in college football


Ummmm..no. The SEC West is not the toughest division in football, sorry there buddy.

This isn't last year. In fact, it was ridiculously overrated, but the truth doesn't help your case for defending Miles, so best not to use it.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:49 pm to
If I could upvote 1,000 times, I would.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:50 pm to
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You're the kind of moron Alexander was talking about not understanding where the money comes from.


It's not the source of funds that's the issue. It's the priorities in fundraising of the senior leadership that is the point of contention.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55255 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:50 pm to
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His whole argument against rubber stamping Miles' termination is based on the ignorance of our thick skulled population.


That. Also, his argument basically says, " I am too timid to take the correct decisive steps and convince doubters of the merits of the corrective steps. If I were a leader, I would not be timid but I'm not so I am and I won't -- give the OK to the Jimbo deal."
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13499 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:57 pm to
If I am a booster that was willing to push out Miles with my own money, I'd stop giving to LSU to make a point here. The university isn't respecting your money, so why give it to them to just hold on to an overrated and vastly overpaid coach?

The only thing that I could see fixing this mess would be Les retiring after next season and forgoing the remainder of his contract. It will cost LSU a year of its talent with Fournette and company getting in the bottom 4 of our division again, but will ease the suffering for poor F King Alexander.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25670 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:57 pm to
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It's not the source of funds that's the issue. It's the priorities in fundraising of the senior leadership that is the point of contention.


That sh*t gets thrown out of the window when you have one of the highest paid coaching staffs in the country with some of the best talent in the country and you get your lunch money taken and shoved in a locker for three straight games. We are paying Cam Cameron, the highest paid O.C. In the country over 1 million to run run pass. Talk about wasting money? We are already doing it.
Posted by MeauxMoney
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2010
504 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:00 pm to
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His whole argument against rubber stamping Miles' termination is based on the ignorance of our thick skulled population.


More of the ignorance of our thick skulled state congress, as well as the general pop.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13091 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:02 pm to
Thank goodness King Alexander has a plan to not only protect LSU from budget cuts, but to secure the resources to make it a truly serious academic institution.
Right?
He does have a plan, doesn't he?
You guys know where F. King's plan is?
Posted by Kajungee
South ,Section 6 Row N
Member since Mar 2004
17033 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:06 pm to
These guys would frick up a wet dream.

This is worse IMO than the initial screw up.
Now your saying to only reason we did not fire you was because of money.

Thanks for the vote of confidence. And way to kill recruiting.
Posted by texastigerr
Texas
Member since Jan 2005
9319 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:09 pm to
Hey a-hole, what's your point?
Posted by Spilled Milk
Member since Mar 2015
1075 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:09 pm to
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It's not the source of funds that's the issue. It's the priorities in fundraising of the senior leadership that is the point of contention.

So I ask, how much of that 15-25 million did the university end up with at the end of the day?
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:10 pm to
We better hope Miles doesn't leave at this point. Alexander might not let Alleva hire the best candidate because the salary is too high. I mean, what would everybody think if LSU is hurting and here they are about to pay a coach 6 million a year?
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:15 pm to
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It's not the source of funds that's the issue. It's the priorities in fundraising of the senior leadership that is the point of contention.



Don't you mean the perception of their priorities?

It's not like they had the choice of either raising $20M from football boosters for the football program or raising $20M from some other folks for academic improvements and chose to only go after the football money.
If there's any other money out there, they can still go get that.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13499 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:15 pm to
I understand his argument, but it doesn't make it right and it is actually quite naive to assume how people see things.

Louisiana has serious problems in higher education, and it has nothing to do with a lack of total funding towards it. Until the state funding of an inordinate amount of universities is stopped, then things will never change.

There are 18 four-year state-funded college campuses in the state of Louisiana. That is absurd especially when numerous ones are utter failures and simply political ammo for legislatures.

Why is there a need for Southern University campuses outside Baton Rouge? What about LSU-Eunice?

If you want to be great at something, you can't spread your resources too thin, and that is what Louisiana does.

Want to have some great universities? Fund 4-5 total not 18.

This idea that everyone should go to college has destroyed what a college education means and is valued now, but sure, a few guys buying out an overrated coach is the straw that will hold LSU back.
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