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re: Ethan Frey...Is the plan for him to take over for JJ at 1st??

Posted on 6/11/25 at 11:27 am to
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
3877 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 11:27 am to
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He needs to prove he can play a position. That simple. Will he, have no idea.
scouts already know he’s freakishly athletic he doesn’t need to spend a season just sitting in RF or 1B to prove he can play defense.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
74331 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 11:29 am to
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scouts already know he’s freakishly athletic he doesn’t need to spend a season just sitting in RF or 1B to prove he can play defense.


Right.

In one season of Low A he could play more games each at 1B and OF than he would play total in another year in college.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
17784 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 11:38 am to
I could see 1st, but I also wonder why he couldn't work out in right field. He doesn't the quickest first step because of his height, but he has wheels, so his range should be at least average.
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
2431 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 11:53 am to
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With the lefty infielder that just committed from Kansas st, id assume he'd play 1st or DH


He bats LH and throw RH. He will be in the mix for 1B, 2B, and 3B.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
6265 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 11:57 am to
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He's likely not even getting a 6 figure NIL deal staying at LSU. He will get far more for a signing bonus than he ever would in an NIL deal. Most NIL deals are enough to cover the cost of tuition with maybe a little pocket change left over to entice high school kids to take a chance at college to improve their signing bonus when they become draft eligible again. They're not enough to entice juniors in college to sacrifice their leverage.


That's not accurate. Bear is making $250k this year. Jay prioritized getting Frey back. For argument's sake, let's say Jay gets $250k for Frey next year, he would need to get drafted by the last pick in the 7th round to match that. Draft slot #225 = $250,300

Yes, Frey would lose his leverage if he came back. But there is a very real possibility that his NIL deal could be within striking distance of his draft slot bonus. I wouldn't bet on Frey being back, but there is absolutely a chance it could happen.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4091 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:00 pm to
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And there are definitely no examples in the major leagues this year.


Cam *cough* Smith


How about a 35-year-old Jose Altuve whose athleticism is not near what it was in his 20s? Astros gave him an OF glove and are playing him in LF. As far where things rank on the difficulty scale in baseball, playing LF is not near the top.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47714 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:02 pm to
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I just don’t see how the kid gets drafted high when he had virtually no college experience at a defensive position.

How much experience does it take to play corner outfield? All they have to do is time his speed, watch him throw a few balls, then see him shag fly balls. In an hour they can learn enough to determine what kind of outfielder he would be. It’s almost all about hitting.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
6265 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:04 pm to
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NIL is not going to make up for millions of dollars lost on a signing bonus.



Frey is currently ranked 130th on the MLB Draft prospect list. That draft slot bonus is $571,500, which is late 4th round. To be clear, I think Frey gets drafted and goes. But he isn't getting "millions" as a bonus this year.
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
2431 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:06 pm to
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Scouting grades: Hit: 50 | Power: 55 | Run: 55 | Arm: 55 | Field: 50 | Overall: 45

Frey led Rosepine (La.) HS to back-to-back state 2-A championships in 2021 and 2022, then added a College World Series title as a Louisiana State freshman in 2023. He played sparingly in his first two years with the Tigers, making just 11 starts and collecting just 76 at-bats, then missed summer ball last year because he required surgery to repair a torn labrum in his right shoulder. After he finally asserted himself as a regular until midway through this season, he became the most productive bat in LSU's lineup.

One of the more imposing hitters in college baseball at 6-foot-6 and 225 pounds, Frey is built to hit for power. He's strong and has a quick right-handed stroke to go with an affinity to driving the ball in the air, a combination that allows him to hit balls out of any part of the park. While he lacks a long track record, he's a patient hitter who has had success this year against both lefties and righties and all types of pitches.

The fact that Frey has spent the majority of his college career as a DH belies his athleticism. A former catcher and dual-threat quarterback in high school, he has solid speed and arm strength to match. He should be able to play right field in pro ball and could merit a look in center.



This is the MLB scouting report on Frey in their prospect list. As you can see, they don't care that he didn't play a position at LSU.

He will get taken before the 5th round and get over 600K. Can possibly be taken in the 3rd and get a mil. Let's enjoy these next 2 weeks.
Posted by jflsufan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2013
4760 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:15 pm to
Frey is a 5-tool player. He gone.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
74331 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:17 pm to
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Frey is a 5-tool player. He gone.


At most right now he would be considered to have 3 above average tools.
Posted by TigerConvert93
Member since Jan 2014
40 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:22 pm to
Exactly. I don't understand why people think the gap between a signing bonus and what he might be able to make in NIL is so huge. It's not. Of course, MLB signing bonuses can flex and he could use NIL opportunities to negotiate a higher signing bonus, potentially to 750k+, which I don't think we could match. But, if you can make what you'd have made in a signing bonus in NIL instead and you love being at LSU, why not come back if the price is right? You're not "losing your leverage." You are using your leverage in NIL contracts rather than on a signing bonus. And in the end, you still make that 400-500k.
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 12:24 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69330 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:29 pm to
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but I just don’t see how the kid gets drafted high when he had virtually no college experience at a defensive position.

Grant Taylor was drafted in the second round having pitched very limited innings ever and had a torn UCL. He’s now in the major leagues. The draft is based mostly on potential and projectability. Frey has tools in spades
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
80789 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:30 pm to
And lose a year of value to the majors, dont forget that.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69330 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:30 pm to
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I don't understand why people think the gap between a signing bonus and what he might be able to make in NIL is so huge. It's not.

It absolutely is massive

He’d be lucky to have a six figure NIL deal. This is baseball, not football
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 12:32 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76218 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:30 pm to
seniors will sign for like $20k

they literally get drafted to save slot value.

i don’t think any Baseball player is getting 400-500k in NIL
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 12:31 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69330 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:35 pm to
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Bear is making $250k this year.

Link?
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Yes, Frey would lose his leverage if he came back

And there’s the difference between he and Jones
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4091 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:36 pm to
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He’d be lucky to have a six figure NIL deal. This is baseball, not football


Things change very rapidly in the NIL game, and this is most likely not the case now, but 2023 Championship team didn't have a single player making $100,000. Few were over $50,000. I think there are several on this team, but I doubt there are many. I would suspect Bear is the leader as I have heard that he is around $200,000.
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
3171 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:37 pm to
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I know the kid is good enough, but I just don’t see how the kid gets drafted high when he had virtually no college experience at a defensive position. And he has leverage next year anyways

They draft high schoolers and sign foreign kids at 16. They evaluate based on hitting, athleticism, and potential. His upside is huge
Posted by BiggaGeauxrilla
North Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
2419 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:41 pm to
All I heard last year is guys like Jared Jones grow on trees n don't carry a super high valve to mlb teams. We think a guy with half that production that doesn't have a position defensively is definitely going pro? I don't see it...
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