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Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:30 pm to Truama_dawg
You think these idiots understand basketball? 
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:30 pm to bobbyleewilliams
Hey, at least your honest. I admire someone willing to admit that.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:32 pm to semjase
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unrealistic
This is the key term. What is considered "realistic"?
If your expectation was this LSU team was going to consistently beat teams like Alabama, Kentucky, Auburn, Tennessee (tomorrow), Arkansas, then that was unrealistic and losses to them shouldn't necessary warrant a freak out.
However, if your expectation was LSU would at least be competitive in most of those games, then it is not unrealistic to be concerned by the fact they have lost the last 4 games by an average of 20 points while scoring an average of 57 ppg.
Some of that has to do with an increase in competition...no doubt. But A&M and Florida (particularly at home) shouldn't be double-digit points better than this LSU team. Auburn shouldn't be 20 points better than LSU at home. And for as good as Alabama is, in no world should this LSU team be getting drummed by the same margin of defeat as Jackson St and Jacksonville St. Outside of the Florida game, LSU was controlled from almost start to finish by A&M, Alabama, and Auburn
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:47 pm to Alt26
You thought this team would be able to compete after what they lost last year and the issues that whole situation created?
That's the issue. That's not a realistic expectation. We're an SEC with a lot of "group of 5" type talent. If anyone thought that'd be very successful, you're being unrealistic.
Which takes me back to my first point, the majority of the idiots here don't understand sports, much less basketball.
Or, they're too obtuse to realize the is a complete rebuild. Culture and everything.
That's the issue. That's not a realistic expectation. We're an SEC with a lot of "group of 5" type talent. If anyone thought that'd be very successful, you're being unrealistic.
Which takes me back to my first point, the majority of the idiots here don't understand sports, much less basketball.
Or, they're too obtuse to realize the is a complete rebuild. Culture and everything.
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:15 pm to Truama_dawg
I expected WAY more competitiveness with the roster he brought in and what was left. Not to make the tourney. Just quit losing by 20. Damn
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:35 pm to Truama_dawg
Are we supposed to think that they are really trying?
Sure doesn't look like it.
Sure doesn't look like it.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:36 pm to saint tiger225
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You thought this team would be able to compete after what they lost last year and the issues that whole situation created?
Compete for the SEC championship? No.
Compete within the 6-10 range of the SEC? Absolutely!
And before you say I'm ridiculous in that expectation, I wasn't alone. LSU was picked to finish 8th in the SEC.
SI projected them as one of the last 4 teams in the NCAA Tournament
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As did some others
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Joe Lunardi of ESPN fame had them as one of the "Next Four teams out" in the preseason
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I didn't EXPECT them to be a NCAA Tournament team. But I felt, given the roster, there was an outside shot they could compete for a spot. That was the unbias projection from others who have no affinity whatsoever for LSU.
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Which takes me back to my first point, the majority of the idiots here don't understand sports, much less basketball.
Or, they're too obtuse to realize the is a complete rebuild. Culture and everything.
Perhaps you should look in the mirror. The transfer rule allows programs to be completely "rebuilt" in the course of a year. You being someone who clearly understands sports, more significantly, basketball, should know that all too well given LSU has actually played two such teams. Iowa St, with a first year HC and 8 new players went from 2-22 to the Sweet 16 in one season. K-state this year had 9 players leave. They will be a top 10 team next week. Now, I'm not going to say that should be the expectation. But it certainly shows it is possible. Both programs lost several players from the prior year and yet still were able to win quickly.
So again, while it is unrealistic to think this team would consistently beat the likes of Alabama, Kentucky, Auburn, etc., it's also unrealistic to think they could not complete in the SEC with teams like Florida and A&M. Right now LSU is getting beat easily by mid-tier SEC teams, and absolutely destroyed by the better teams. This roster SHOULD be better than that.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:42 pm to sta4ever
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Because our fanbase is full of unrealistic retards
I’m realistic. Here’s what really happened. We nuked our basketball program because dickie v and pat forde were mean.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 6:15 pm to Truama_dawg
Adam is right
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:03 pm to SOL2
Let's don't forget, football team looked pretty bad in game one. Maybe this team will regain some confidence, it seems like they're a little shell shocked. Easier games are at the back of the schedule.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 9:06 pm to Alt26
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Iowa St, with a first year HC and 8 new players went from 2-22 to the Sweet 16 in one season. K-state this year had 9 players leave. They will be a top 10 team next week.
Question:
Are both of these teams you’ve mentioned fresh off of an investigation???
This is incredible y’all actually think we should be tournament bound after all of this bs we dealt with under Wade. It’s comical.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 9:28 pm to Truama_dawg
I watch every year, some years are more fun. Let's go!
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:38 am to Alt26
quote:
If your expectation was this LSU team was going to consistently beat teams like Alabama, Kentucky, Auburn, Tennessee (tomorrow), Arkansas, then that was unrealistic and losses to them shouldn't necessary warrant a freak out.
However, if your expectation was LSU would at least be competitive in most of those games, then it is not unrealistic to be concerned by the fact they have lost the last 4 games by an average of 20 points while scoring an average of 57 ppg.
This is kinda how I look at it. The OOC games were largely jokes, but we did play competitively vs. the likes of Kansas St and Wake on neutral courts and vs. Arky and Kentucky.
So why the absolute stinkers the last 4 games? Something is different, can't put my finger on it but I think we can acknowledge that the talent isn't top tier SEC and still say the way we've played the last 4 games is below the standard set in earlier games this year and IMHO not acceptable.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:46 am to Tiger Ugly
The things that don’t take talent being absolutely missing is a massive issue the last 4 games. Couple that with MM is as animated as TJ and it makes things worse. Then our recruiting is piss poor.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:17 am to JWill409
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Question:
Are both of these teams you’ve mentioned fresh off of an investigation???
Arizona was in the midst of an IARP investigation like LSU last year. All they did with a first year, and first time, HC is go 33-4, win the PAC 12, grab a No.1 seed and look like the best team in the nation for most of the season.
This isn’t 1993. LSU FANS are far more worried about the investigation than coaches and players. Wade will probably be hit hard. The LSU program will be fine
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This is incredible y’all actually think we should be tournament bound after all of this bs we dealt with under Wade. It’s comical.
No one EXPECTED this team to be a tournament team. But many people, most with no bias in favor of LSU at all, looked at the roster and the success of McMahon last season and felt this team should be good enough to compete for an outside shot at making the tournament. That was a reasonable expectation. It was only LSU fans who didn’t think so as the cried in the corner convinced the program was going get a death penalty because of the way the roster looked in April.
McMahon did a GOOD job of putting together what should be a competitive, not championship caliber, but competitive roster. For the last two weeks they haven’t been that.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:31 am to bamacoullion
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So the fact is if you cant shoot worth a shite after years of playing
Spot on.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:45 am to Alt26
quote:ironically, the only opponents we have faced in the "6-10" range in the SEC currently are Florida, Arkansas, and Kentucky.
Compete for the SEC championship? No.
Compete within the 6-10 range of the SEC? Absolutely!
quote:You can't rebuild with a new coach in April and zero players and zero recruits. That we trounced Iowa State should show you how decent CMM has done. And in the case of KState, their new coach came over from Baylor and replaced a retiring coach. Again, no sanctions. Completely different.
Perhaps you should look in the mirror. The transfer rule allows programs to be completely "rebuilt" in the course of a year. You being someone who clearly understands sports, more significantly, basketball, should know that all too well given LSU has actually played two such teams. Iowa St, with a first year HC and 8 new players went from 2-22 to the Sweet 16 in one season. K-state this year had 9 players leave.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 12:08 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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With the turnover in basketball, every year is year 1. No good this year? Shut it down and wait for next year's all new lineup. Rinse, repeat.
That’s true now more than ever. But what if CMM is just not good in this new portal/NiL environment.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 12:10 pm to mmcgrath
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You can't rebuild with a new coach in April and zero players and zero recruits.
Kelly succeeded in a very similar situation with football.
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