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JWill409
| Favorite team: | LSU  |
| Location: | Beaumont, TX |
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| Number of Posts: | 1539 |
| Registered on: | 9/7/2010 |
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I’m confused
You think McMahon will be successful elsewhere after the disaster he was here, but don’t think Wade will be successful here when he’s already been successful here?
Yes, context matters. Stay confused.
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re: Let’s make a list of tMcMen who have been trashing tLoyalists over the years.
Posted by JWill409 on 3/26/26 at 4:14 pm to drizztiger
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Hey bro, I respect you. Just your perspective on this has been wrong for a long time. I appreciate you taking care of the kids.
I was wrong about him coming back, and I hope I'm wrong about WW 2.0. I don't have a problem admitting when I'm wrong. I thought McMahon would have much more success here. He will be successful somewhere else.
re: Let’s make a list of tMcMen who have been trashing tLoyalists over the years.
Posted by JWill409 on 3/26/26 at 3:41 pm to Metaloctopus
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They gave McMahon plenty of support to simply demonstrate that he could put together a competitive team. You have to earn the right to be given everything you want. McMahon is a nice guy, but he never demonstrated that investing in him further would be worth the gamble. Wade has won everywhere he has been. He's proven he can bring in talent, and do something with it.
Never said he should've been retained.
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but I don't see any hall of fame coaches beating down our door right now.
With the money and NIL commitment Wade is getting, there would've been plenty in line.
re: Let’s make a list of tMcMen who have been trashing tLoyalists over the years.
Posted by JWill409 on 3/26/26 at 3:39 pm to Tammany Tom
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mp on board or go support some other losing program, because LSU is going to be a perennial NCAA tournament team now.
I wasn't a supporter of Wade when he was here last, and I can choose to not be now. I'm going to continue to root on the Tigers and hope for the best. I hope I'm wrong, but you'll definitely hear my criticism, and also me cheering him on if I'm wrong. He has some major coaching flaws. I don't think he's worth the money to just "make the tournament". We will see!
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McNeese???? Wasnt that in this era?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Hahahaha.
He literally won the sec in his first go round.
Totally different college landscape and totally different conference than it was back then. He couldn't finish top 5 in a top heavy ACC, but yeah let's bring up something that happened 6-7 years ago. This is a totally different game now, you've got a massive wave of European players coming in from all over, and 25 year old freshman. So far, in this era, Will Wade has struggled. He got outcoached by every coach that was worth a damn in the ACC as a matter of fact, and went 1-3 against SEC teams...all losses to Texas.
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Arceneaux didn't work out, he won't be coming
Had some of the highest metrics on the team, and Wade wouldn't play him. Played him even less vs Texas. He averaged more minutes and production at a better program before.
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Incidentally, "sloppy and undisciplined" was a common gripe here when Wade was coach the first time
Yep lol
Some are on cloud 9 right now, let them be.
re: Let’s make a list of tMcMen who have been trashing tLoyalists over the years.
Posted by JWill409 on 3/26/26 at 2:11 pm to Nix to Twillie
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I think LSU will thrive under WW 2.0
I really hope you're right.
re: Let’s make a list of tMcMen who have been trashing tLoyalists over the years.
Posted by JWill409 on 3/26/26 at 2:05 pm to drizztiger
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You know what’s important, the opinion of biddy ball coaches. 8U is the breeding ground.
I coached “biddy ball” up to 16U and actually coached one of Will Wades players at NC State. I’m now coaching my own children at 8U. When I retire at 50, I will be in the area as a high school coach. Not sure what’s laughable about teaching kids the game that you supposedly follow and developing them into college athletes. It’s weird you’re critical of that as if you have done something similar.
re: Let’s make a list of tMcMen who have been trashing tLoyalists over the years.
Posted by JWill409 on 3/26/26 at 1:59 pm to Tiger2tiga
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Just bc someone criticizes Wade doesn’t mean they supported McMahon.
These people have been literally obsessing over a Wade reunion for over half a decade and finally got it. Any kind of logic or reasoning was tossed out the window a while ago. Let them have their moment, and when we start getting average/mediocre results with top tier money, refer back to this post.
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Mmcgrath Broken arrow Jwill Tigerbb Mcpuff
I was fine with moving on from Mc, not fine with the Wade hire. Was good with anyone, but. Really hope he’s grown as a coach, but if the Texas game was any indicator, he hasn’t. He also couldn’t beat the good teams and coaches in the ACC, so not sure why people think he can in a tougher conference. With 12-15m he should have no excuse but to finish top 3 in the SEC next year with that kind of money.
Please stop spreading misinformation about me with your “dishonesty and lies”. I never once said I wanted to keep him, only gave perspective as to why we might, and it’s well documented I was fine with him being fired.
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Arceneaux transferred from UH I believe if it same Arceneaux
Yes, and not sure I'd count him in lol
re: Will Wade might believe LSU Basketball is a sleeping Giant
Posted by JWill409 on 3/26/26 at 9:11 am to OpenlyGayDave
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The McMen had a lot of excuses.
Not in that category, but:
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“We’ve got changes we’ve got to make up and down the program. My eyes are wide open, I understand what we need to do,” Wade said. “But this is unacceptable, losing in Dayton. In some ways, we were fortunate to make the tournament with this group. We’ve got to do a much better job getting guys, and making sure we get guys that fit us in the future to make sure we’re not back in this spot.”
Wade made a ton of them too, so please don't make excuses for him when the time comes. He couldn't be more than average in the weaker ACC.
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Lol why are people acting like nobody else was paying players?
Because we were making strong arse offers over what others were “willing to pay” to get guys like Naz Reid, Cam Thomas, Javonte Smart, Trendon Watford, etc over other schools with a much higher pedigree of program. Will Wade was an unproven coach the SEC level at the time. Go back and look at those guys’ offers. You think they chose an unproven coach with no pedigree over coaches that had won championships……because of Will Wade from VCU? Gtfoh LOL
re: 2:20 pm Rothstein Upeardate
Posted by JWill409 on 3/25/26 at 6:25 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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But LSU had a consistent winning product with him and an SEC Championship, so we know he is capable of winning considerably in the SEC as well. So I'm not sure the lazy hire thing applies here because he was quite successful at LSU (and he had success at VCU and McNeese as well). And I'm sure there were some decent challenges with trying to bring him back here. If he does indeed become the coach again...
-The SEC is much stronger now than it was when he was last here.
-It’s now a level playing field in regards to money, he’s got no advantages behind closed doors.
re: I don’t think it’s right for the admin to be treating MM like this
Posted by JWill409 on 3/25/26 at 3:41 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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If you are going to fire him, fire him. Conducting a secret coaching search and forcing him to get updates from the press rather than his boss is a shitty way to manage employees. Sorrry, just my thoughts.
LSU is either really worried about possibly losing a few million before April 1st, or losing out on Will Wade after NC State offers the kitchen sink in the next day.
re: Will Wade met with NC State officials today, they will make offer to keep him
Posted by JWill409 on 3/25/26 at 12:20 pm to The Pirate King
Plot twist: Will Wade’s agent using LSU as leverage to get a massive extension after 1 year lol
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Yes
Whatever you want it to be man, you said you weren't in that group, now you are. Strange. Do you understand what a / is? Surely we don't have to go that route. Anyways.
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- Wade or whoever it is needs to make the tourney
Yes, but you/fans screaming about hating living in mediocrity can't settle for just making the tournament, it's a contradiction.
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Wade wouldn’t be given a year of grace (nor should he imo)
He shouldn't because of all the examples(others have used against other coaches) having success in year 1 with transfer portal and the agility to rebuild a roster in a year. If he's the most successful coache we've had and he's made the tournament year 1 with 2 different teams in the NIL era, he should make it with LSU....unless he doesn't get the funding to buy players...which would make my other point valid about McMahon.
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if it’s any other coach he would be
Nope
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If we’re improving, regardless of the hire that standard should be upheld WW or otherwise. Giving another coach grace you wouldn’t give him while continually questioning his ability is hypocritical. Thats where the separation is with normal fans and those of you with WDS
Again, the ones supporting McMahon on here have been giving him grace. Alot of fans have not, as soon as when he stepped foot on campus because they were sour we let Wade go. If Wade struggles, it is clear that we don't have the commitment from an NIL standpoint. You/Y'all can't use things in an argument like first year head coach success, and then it not apply to a first year coach over here LOL
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That’s not only a deflection it’s a total misrepresentation of what I’ve said and my “perspective” on McMahon or Wade. Making straw men and twisting a total collapse of the program into yet another excuse is exactly why someone like you can’t be taken seriously. My expectations have always been the same, make the tourney every year because that’s how you build a lasting winner and elevate the program.
I was talking about you? Wild, I even said you/y'all. Generally speaking and did that because I didn't know where you stood on it...kind of why I did that, but a fair assumption. If that's your expectations, its reasonable. We can agree on that. I don't need anyone to take me seriously, this would be the last place I would seek validity from.
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Even if talks were on-going it would not change his response.
It wouldn't?? LOL you make an arse out of assuming. You can assume, but no one else can?
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That allows Wade to deflect and not answer the question
He clearly answered the question and then talked about the future. Not sure how familiar you are with coach speak, but Wade's answer was zero indication of him leaving, rather, it would be an indicator of him staying based on his own words. You assuming anything different is ignorant, some might call it "wish-casting"... :lol:
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