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JWill409
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| Registered on: | 9/7/2010 |
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Wrong. :lol:
Never said they were Point Guards, I said they were "smaller, weaker defenders". That was in context with Thomas being undersized. Which was one of the reason's you said he'd come off the bench. Let's revisit.
Where did I mention their positions? Only about size. You made this up. To fit a narrative.
This is also a reason why I've been against Will Wade's style of play. Same thing with Smart and Mays. He runs his offenses through his best players, not necessarily a consistent system through a point guard. Which is why usage is all over the place. As you say, context matters.
At almost 40, I'm still actively playing in leagues and coaching my kids/former players. You should get a game together and I'll make the 3 hour drive and show you what a PG is.
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Other PGs you mentioned for that team have taken more.
-Sasser- 6.8 3s attempted per game
- Cryer (not a PG)- 7.8 3s per game
Never said they were Point Guards, I said they were "smaller, weaker defenders". That was in context with Thomas being undersized. Which was one of the reason's you said he'd come off the bench. Let's revisit.
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You're gonna keep an all-conference player who has averaged almost 15ppg and 5asts...for his career....to come off the bench? All the while a 6'1 Cryer, Shead, Sasser, all 3 of them smaller, "weaker defenders"... have not only started....but LEAD THE TEAM IN SCORING the past several years?
You are making guesses based on what? You are lost.
Where did I mention their positions? Only about size. You made this up. To fit a narrative.
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- Cam Thomas
- Trendon Watford
Both had higher usage rates than our PGs so there goes your other standard. You obviously don’t even know what the stat means.
Nothing you’ve said is based on fact. You’re panicked and ignorant
This is also a reason why I've been against Will Wade's style of play. Same thing with Smart and Mays. He runs his offenses through his best players, not necessarily a consistent system through a point guard. Which is why usage is all over the place. As you say, context matters.
At almost 40, I'm still actively playing in leagues and coaching my kids/former players. You should get a game together and I'll make the 3 hour drive and show you what a PG is.
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You’ve already been exposed for being dishonest about your “history” around that area so you just saying you do something while all the evidence points to you not doing it isn’t a credible argument. And again you continue to misuse and add context that doesn’t exist to coach speak, pretending it’s evidence. Anyone, including you, wants to see who the PG at Houston was the last 2 seasons, there are a ton of their games on YouTube that proves you’re full of it.
I've actually been to alot of games, as I've said previously I had some ties to the program. You say it's coach speak to fit your argument, crazy assumption to know what's coach speak and what isn't. Direct quotes flagged by you as coach speak to fit your narrative. Again, alot of these numbers im giving you prove my point...as the point guard is the primary ball handler...which also explains the usage and assists numbers. Yet you sit here and continue to deny...you actually are correct from the previous year, he did fill that role with Shead leaving...but when Flemings arrived, he got bumped to the wing...which is also why he shot more 3's because he was coming off more screens and had the ball less. He ran from the top some, but that belonged mostly to Flemings...which is why Sampson called him the point guard. See, if you out all these things together, you'll arrive to your answer..yet you refuse. All good man, I'm sure people revere your knowledge on this board.
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This is logic and an actual argument to you. LSU has had several PGs who’ve shot 3s at that rate or higher. Again you don’t watch basketball and don’t know what you’re talking about.
Right, I don't expect you to understand. You still can't explain why Sampson said Flemings was his PG and you dismiss every piece of information you get because you must know more than me and everyone else out there. You're not making any arguments to counter any of my talking points which would be usage rate, assists, all that stuff. You are set in your ways and there's nothing that me or the head coach of the team could say apparently that would change your mind. Sampson took naps during the games too, I guess he didn't watch either.
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As usual you’re just making shite up
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You don’t watch basketball
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you never watched a Houston game
I only live right next door, and coached a former player in Sampson(and Will Wade's) program, but you know it all buddy.
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Javonte Smart and Skylar Mays are both considered PGs on their profiles
So again...I'll leave you with this...
Why would Sampson relate Thomas to Flemings and not Uzan as a PG if he wasn't his PG???
Also...why would a "PG" shoot almost 6 3's a game???
Nevermind, It's really not worth it at this point. You are dug in.
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This entire Thomas discussion is a waste of time. That's the point. Nobody gives a shite and wishes you would stop. Read the room.
Don’t make stupid comments that are inaccurate and then double down on them. I’m done though don’t you worry.
Wrong. So why would Sampson list all of the previous great PGs as I’ve quoted before Thomas…and list Flemings….and not Uzan…if Uzan was his PG??? Uzan was a combo guard most definitely not a PG and every metric out there will say otherwise. Flemings(26.3%) had a much higher usage rate as Uzan(19.3%). You are so lost in this. Even when you are flat out wrong and given plenty of evidence you will continue to bury yourself. I’m out.
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I actually don't care, but feel free to provide an update. You seem invested.
If you didn't, why did you feel the need to comment? Would seem like a waste of time. I guess you're invested as well.
The argument would actually be how he related Thomas to other great PG's of his program and thinks he will carry the torch left by Flemings. Either way, there's not really a sufficient argument in your opinion yet you can leave your opinion without having to actually give me basketball reasons as to why. I guess we will see.
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Is Thomas playing for LSU? No? So I guess he won't be the PG/floor general we need. Good luck to Thomas and I hope you get some peace on this subject in the meanwhile. Feel free to give us an update on if Thomas starts.
I'm sure you'll know eventually when we play Houston.
Pretty straightforward opinions, you don’t think Thomas starts, I do. I don’t see how you would formulate your opinion based on what’s been said about him by his own coach, but your stance is that doesn’t matter, his defense and injury history say otherwise. What did I miss? I think it’s an uneducated take. Then you throw out all this wordplay and jargon for what reason? Assuming he’s fully healthy, why in the world would he come off the bench? Is defense your only reason?
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Everything you said in that post is BS. Again emotional panic, mud slinging and mischaracterization to put it as lightly as possible. You even contradict your own comments you’re melting so hard.
This is what you do when you back yourself in a corner.
You gave your opinion, I gave mine.
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I already said why and your comments about those other players being weak defenders is false. You’re operating from emotion only, holding on to your MM love. I also said likely I didn’t say he sucked or wouldn’t definitely start but the fact that they brought in 4-5 other PGs and recruited even more bolsters the point. He’s also injury prone and has a degenerative injury. He can def help them but I don’t know why you’d think Sampson would say bad things about him? It’s just desperate and emotional driven takes by you as usual.
No, you making uneducated comments thinking he's not going to start and then giving yourself an out by saying "I could be wrong". No one said you said he sucked. Not sure a shoulder injury that made him miss 7 games in 24-25 and a foot injury last year that required surgery makes him "injury prone". Some even said that he mailed it in. You being dismissive of Sampson's comments is exactly why it's an emotional take on your side of things. I don't think anyone would agree with this take outside of over-emotional LSU fans who are so dug into him(or any MM player) not being good, can't handle a former player starting at PG for one of the top programs in the country is what it seems like.
Kind of why I said it. Your opinion is not very educated, but it's an interesting one. Kind of mind-boggling you would think Thomas would go to one of the best programs in the country for his senior year to sit the bench for one.
Why would he do that?
Two: Sampson looks to "keep going" with continued successes at PG:
So why would you think he would bring him off the bench? All those good qualities he talks about, only to back up someone else? Help me understand.
Why would he do that?
Two: Sampson looks to "keep going" with continued successes at PG:
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"Now we slide right on over to Dedan Thomas Jr. I think we'll just keep going," Sampson said. "DJ is a point guard's point guard. Can manage the game, understands the game at a freakishly high level. Very smart. Can get in the paint. Plays off his imagination."
So why would you think he would bring him off the bench? All those good qualities he talks about, only to back up someone else? Help me understand.
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Zero facts to support it.
And people actually agree with you?
Sad.
Zero facts to support it.
And people actually agree with you?
Sad.
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Good chance he doesn’t start for them. Most likely he’ll be a 6th man when they need a little offensive punch. They tend to get stuck on offense and usually their answer is to have a couple of chuckers on the wings. DJ can give them some better shot selection by spreading and moving the ball more smoothly but he isn’t a good enough defender to start for a typical Houston team. I could be wrong but if I had to bet that’s how they’ll use him.
You're gonna keep an all-conference player who has averaged almost 15ppg and 5asts...for his career....to come off the bench? All the while a 6'1 Cryer, Shead, Sasser, all 3 of them smaller, "weaker defenders"... have not only started....but LEAD THE TEAM IN SCORING the past several years?
You are making guesses based on what? You are lost. :lol:
re: Wade really needs to find a PG/floor general type now.
Posted by JWill409 on 5/22/26 at 3:33 pm to thunderbird1100
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Going by the ratings, Thomas as a transfer is rated behind a freshman coming in
You would argue with a wall, you're telling me a true freshman coming in that's a Center(who usually take longer to develop) and probably won't play more than 20 minutes a game, is more heralded than an all-conference Senior PG, who he's already said is the strength of his program(a top 5 program in basketball)??
Not even worth discussing further.
re: Wade really needs to find a PG/floor general type now.
Posted by JWill409 on 5/22/26 at 3:26 pm to thunderbird1100
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How does any of that prove your original comment right?
The only thing that would prove that would be the fact that he is by far the highest rated transfer they got.
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That was a good LOL you gave me with that comment
Can't help but laugh at the truth I guess:
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"DJ is a young man that we recruited out of high school. Of course, the point guard position here has probably been the strength of our program, from Galen (Robinson) to Dejon (Jarreau) to Milos. We've never not had a great point guard all the way through Kingston," Sampson said.
"Now we slide right on over to Dedan Thomas Jr. I think we'll just keep going," Sampson said. "DJ is a point guard's point guard. Can manage the game, understands the game at a freakishly high level. Very smart. Can get in the paint. Plays off his imagination."
"We had two or three point guards that were on the verge of committing," Sampson says. "And it's a good position to be in — to decide who you want to be your point guard."
re: Wade really needs to find a PG/floor general type now.
Posted by JWill409 on 5/22/26 at 8:58 am to Circle K Beggar
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It could’ve also been meant for Sutton. Another miss by McMahon.
Thomas was last year’s most heralded recruit and was done by February.
Maybe so, Thomas was Houston's most heralded recruit this offseason. Injuries happen.
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