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re: does a bad rush def (ole miss) get right against a bad rushing off (lsu), or vise versa?
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:05 pm to StGeorgeTiger
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:05 pm to StGeorgeTiger
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I’m talking about LSU hasn’t played against bad rush defenses. Go look @ the stats. It’s simply not true.
How exactly are you ranking southeastern's rush defense?
First off its a vastly overmatched FCS team compared to our roster, so we should have our way with them. Secondly, we ran for less yards per rush against them than Murray St and LT did
Do you think Ole Miss' rush defense is actually worse than SELA?
No this doesnt mean we cant run better against OM than we did against SELA, but I mean how many games do you have to see over the last 2 seasons to know we cant really run the ball?
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 2:07 pm
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:15 pm to BayouPride
This game is about containment on the QB
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:15 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:NCAA Stats
How exactly are you ranking southeastern's rush defense?
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First off its a vastly overmatched FCS team compared to our roster, so we should have our way with them. Secondly, we ran for less yards per rush against them than Murray St and LT did Do you think Ole Miss' rush defense is actually worse than SELA? No this doesnt mean we cant run better against OM than we did against SELA, but I mean how many games do you have to see over the last 2 seasons to know we cant really run the ball?
I’m not saying this is a prolific rushing attack by LSU. It’s not. There have been games with healthy RBs that we could run the ball effectively last year. I think the offense finds it footing Saturday and they go to the month of October unblemished for the 1st time since 2019.
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:18 pm to Tarpon08
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The only reason we cannot run the ball is because of our lack of mobility at QB. Oh for fricks sake. Where do you frickers come from!?
You do realize that if Nuss spun around a couple times, they couldn’t bottleneck the middle.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:59 pm to StGeorgeTiger
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I’m talking about LSU hasn’t played against bad rush defenses. Go look @ the stats. It’s simply not true.
We played against FCS SELA and rushed for less than 4 yards per carry
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:09 pm to BayouPride
I have more faith in the Offense as a whole going into this game because of how poor Ole Miss is at getting lined up and seeing multiple communication/coverage busts (#SageRyanImpact). Not sure that we find huge success in the ground game early but if we attack their DBs early in the game and get into a rhythm our run game will pop later in the game.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:17 pm to BayouPride
Our OC and our "scheme" suck. Period.
OM defense will look great.
With that, I still think the defense wins the game again.
OM defense will look great.
With that, I still think the defense wins the game again.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:21 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:LSU had 110 yards for 3.6avg after 3 quarters. LSU started substituting liberally midway through the 3rd. You know if the starters had stayed in, those numbers would have ballooned.
its a vastly overmatched FCS team compared to our roster, so we should have our way with them
quote:go look at how many yards OM has given up this year and then look at who all OMs opponents have played. It's cringe.
Do you think Ole Miss' rush defense is actually worse than SELA
quote:LSU doesn't have to set the world on fire rushing this season. Just be good enough to compliment the passing game like against clemson.
I mean how many games do you have to see over the last 2 seasons to know we cant really run the ball
Posted on 9/24/25 at 4:26 pm to moneyg
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I think LSU will have a poor output because we’ve seen that against pretty poor defenses already.
We haven't played against a defense nearly as poor as Ole Miss, except maybe Southeastern. Clemson is allowing 122 YPG (LSU had 108), ranked 52nd. La Tech is allowing 100.5 ypg (LSU had 128), ranked 32nd. Florida is allowing 111.2 per game (LSU had 96), ranked 46th. Ole Miss is ranked 120th, allowing 190.5 YPG.
Georgia State averages 109.5 YPG rushing, but rushed for 190 yards vs Ole Miss. LSU averages 116 YPG right now.
I don't know if they can overcome the rushing woes in this game, but saying that LSU has played bad defenses is incorrect.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 4:59 pm to BayouPride
Pretty ridiculous considering the stable of running backs we have, can easily be argued to be the best group in the entire country.
Yet BK has allowed for this ineptitude with the offensive line to fester the entire off season and well into the regular season. You have to wonder how badly he really wants to win a national championship.
Yet BK has allowed for this ineptitude with the offensive line to fester the entire off season and well into the regular season. You have to wonder how badly he really wants to win a national championship.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 5:02 pm to mdomingue
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We haven't played against a defense nearly as poor as Ole Miss, except maybe Southeastern
Except for Southeastern? That counts. That we didn’t run the ball effectively is meaningful.
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I don't know if they can overcome the rushing woes in this game, but saying that LSU has played bad defenses is incorrect
I didn’t say all of the defenses we played were bad. You invented that. I said that we’ve performed “poorly” against bad defenses and that I expected we were going to do about the same in this game.
I suspect we will move the ball very effectively through the air assuming we protect adequately.
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 9/24/25 at 5:11 pm to BayouPride
We’ll see in 3 days.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 5:38 pm to moneyg
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We haven't played against a defense nearly as poor as Ole Miss, except maybe Southeastern
Except for Southeastern? That counts. That we didn’t run the ball effectively is meaningful
I have simply no data regarding Southeastern because they are an FCS school.
We averaged 3.9 YPC, which was skewed by sack yardage plus we played backups through much of the second half. The non-QBs were 4.2 YPC. Not great but acceptable.
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I don't know if they can overcome the rushing woes in this game, but saying that LSU has played bad defenses is incorrect
I didn’t say all of the defenses we played were bad. You invented that.
I didn't say you did, who is inventing things now. You said
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I think LSU will have a poor output because we’ve seen that against pretty poor defenses already.
Note the plural, which I also used in response. Clemson has the worst rushing defense, outside of SELA, and they are ranked 53, which is an above-average defense. So we've played against 1 bad rushing defense.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 6:36 pm to StGeorgeTiger
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This is a terrible matchup and spot for Ole Miss.
Yet they are favored by three. LSU has beaten four very bad teams, two of them just barely, and one only because they threw five interceptions. BK is who we thought he was. And he gets paid for the next six years either way!
Posted on 9/24/25 at 6:47 pm to mdomingue
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I have simply no data regarding Southeastern because they are an FCS school.
They are mid tier in FCS.
But you don’t need data to understand the level of defense they have.
I stand by my statement. I don’t expect LSU to run the ball materially better than they have all year…which has been sub par.
Our inability to be more than minimally effective against SELA supports that opinion.
Pretending you can’t conclude anything about the quality of SELA‘s defense is dishonest. Pretending Ole Miss’ run defense is inferior to SELA is hopium.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 8:23 pm to moneyg
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Pretending you can’t conclude anything about the quality of SELA‘s defense is dishonest.
Not at all, I assume they are subpar, I thought that was clear, I just had no data to conclude anything further.
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Pretending Ole Miss’ run defense is inferior to SELA is hopium.
I neither said nor implied that. I assume their run defense is inferior to Clemson, La Tech, and Florida. WHich it appears to be.
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I stand by my statement. I don’t expect LSU to run the ball materially better than they have all year
That is a reasonable statement.
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which has been sub par.
Undeniable.
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Our inability to be more than minimally effective against SELA supports that opinion.
Maybe. Two of our backs combined for 15 carries for 71 yards, That's 4.7 YPC, individually 5.4 and 4 YPC.
But it is probably a safe bet that our rushing attack will not carry LSU to victory and may be the cause of their defeat if they do lose.
Nothing is a given in this series of late.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 8:25 pm to RockChalkTiger
Is Ole Miss a very bad team? Just curious about your opinion now, before the game.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 9:18 pm to moneyg
quote:We also started subbing in 2nd and 3rd string players after the first series in the 2nd half. Why do people keep leaving that out?
We played against FCS SELA and rushed for less than 4 yards per carry
Posted on 9/24/25 at 9:21 pm to RockChalkTiger
quote:Aside from this not being true, the topic is the LSU offense vs the OM defense. In that regard, OM has been pretty terrible and LSU has faced 2 solid defenses and 1 middle of the pack defense. OM's opponents have good offense stats but their competition has been dreadful
LSU has beaten four very bad teams
LSU has a higher SOS than OM. So if LSU has beaten 4 "very bad" teams, OM's opponents are even worse, right?
Posted on 9/24/25 at 9:59 pm to herecomethetigers02
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The only reason we cannot run the ball is because of our lack of mobility at QB.
OP, Please don't post on the Rant when your body and brain is overwhelmed with alcohol and drugs. 
I guess the massive OL "Totality of Dysfunction" has nothing to do with not being able to run, huh?
OL CAN'T RUN BLOCK. (Sylvester Davis)
RB's CAN'T FIND THE RIGHT HOLE TO HIT. (Rant GOAT Frank Wilson)
WR's CAN'T CATCH THE FOOTBALL. (Rant GOAT Cortez Hankton)
OC IN OVER HIS HEAD. (Joe Sloan)
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