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re: Do you think Jayden Daniels could make these throws?

Posted on 9/7/23 at 2:39 pm to
Posted by Nevada
Member since Nov 2019
425 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 2:39 pm to
“Daniels has his flaws and certainly had mistakes on Sunday but so did the entire team and he was not the reason we lost on Sunday but it is quite comical to see people dismiss all the other mistakes and flaws of this team and lay majority of the blame at Daniels' feet.”

QBs are supposed to LEAD by bringing out the best in his teammates. Does Daniels do that? Is his fearful approach to passing downfield and scampering when no receivers are wide open going to inspire his team? I think it results in team demoralization.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 2:40 pm
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 2:43 pm to
Word up.

Posted by Nevada
Member since Nov 2019
425 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 2:45 pm to
The blame falls on the coaches.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 2:45 pm to
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it sucked what happened on Sunday at least they seem to be making the adjustment to better suit Perkins skill set.


What could they have been thinking? It made NO sense to move a guy of his size INSIDE.

Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14846 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 2:50 pm to
Yep Nuss is plenty elusive in the pocket, and is fast enough to pick up yardage in spots, like when everyone is manned up underneath with their backs turned and 2 deep.
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

Nuss can't break 60 yard runs.
No offense but I don't give a single frick about LSU's qb not being able to break off a 60 yard run.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25684 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 2:57 pm to
He can without a doubt make those throws. He has a great arm.
The problem is he'd never actually throw the ball in those situations. Those guys weren't wide open, and they were more than 10 yards down the field.
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4030 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 2:57 pm to
No. He also wouldn’t have the guts or confidence in himself to make those throws.
Posted by Fast Times @ LSU
Camas
Member since Jan 2005
1322 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

Our QBs are not the problem they are both solid options.


Using the QBR statistic as a measure, the FSU game was one of JD5's worst performances @ LSU. Only the Arkansas and Tennessee games last season were worse. I agree that the Offensive problems are not all on Daniels. His WR had too many drops, but I don't think the OL did that bad in pass protection. The OL did bad in goal line run hole creation, but given we didn't pose a vertical passing threat against a good DL front, it's unreasonable for us to think the QB would get more than 4-5 seconds to throw. i haven't rewatched every snap to time it, but my initial reaction was it was taking too long to make the reads. In year 2, i was hoping that would be better.

It also seems like FSU did a better job on D making 1:1 tackles when it took LSU 2-4 players to make tackles.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
20882 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 3:26 pm to
Don't remember who posted it a couple of days ago, but I have to agree- Daniels has maxed out as a college QB. Basically, what you see is what you get. We wanted to somehow believe the hype that JD finally found the confidence to let it fly. We were misled...he is the same QB he was last year.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 3:29 pm to
The second that is a jump ball he could throw he just usually chooses not to.

Considering his WR have trouble catching balls that hit them in the chest or they have to slow down for I can see why he may not have the trust in them.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 3:34 pm to
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Why run when you can throw? You can throw a ball faster than you can run.


I don’t care how long it takes or if it is throwing or passing to make a 60 yard play just make the 60 yard play.

I’m all for Nuss playing if that is what the coaches want to do but he has his flaws too.

Those highlight plays look great but he still has one less INT than TD in his career. I know some of you don’t care about TD-INT ratios but every coach in America does and that is hindering Nuss’s playing time.
Posted by Game2620
Canada
Member since Dec 2013
1246 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 3:36 pm to
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I know some of you don’t care about TD-INT ratios but every coach in America does and that is hindering Nuss’s playing time.


The only way to fix that ratio is by actually getting in the game. Coaching and experience should take care of it. We don’t know if Nussmeier is a finished product. Daniels is — he is a high floor, low ceiling player.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 3:38 pm
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 3:43 pm to
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Daniels is — he is a high floor, low ceiling player.


Newsflash: Most coaches want this guy playing over the high ceiling low floor guy. Coaches want to eliminate the unknown as much as possible.

You can disagree and I wouldn’t even care if Nuss played but this is the logic behind the decision.
Posted by 4evrlsu
Death Valley
Member since Jun 2008
2337 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 3:50 pm to
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or scared to make a mistake


This. The reason, or one of them at least, JD has low interception numbers is because he doesn’t take risks. If you don’t throw it, it can’t be intercepted. And if he does throw it into coverage it’s a tentative throw. IMO, he literally freaks out. The reason his numbers are as good as they are is because he actually has the ability to run after said freak-out. He does not instill confidence. I catch myself holding my breath with every snap. If our WR are doing that too…
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36570 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

Daniels is — he is a high floor, low ceiling player.


Daniels is not high floor. We've seen his floor. It's Jordan Jefferson.
Posted by Game2620
Canada
Member since Dec 2013
1246 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

Most coaches want this guy playing over the high ceiling low floor guy.


What are your goals? Bowl eligible? Winning record in conference? 8-4? Those are obtainable with this type of player. Championships are won with the elite.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 4:09 pm
Posted by catfish 62
Atlanta
Member since Mar 2010
4913 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 4:11 pm to
Well the second throw is a pick 8 out of 10 times in the sec
Posted by tygerphan
Georgia
Member since Oct 2009
3258 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 4:18 pm to
Only at LSU does a defense give up 45 points and the fans blame a QB who threw for 350 yds for losing the game.
Posted by Zippydog
metairie , La
Member since Jan 2020
453 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 4:24 pm to
A QB who is decisive with a quick release can really help an O-line . Nuss can do that and has a very good arm . Kid deserves a chance , IMHO .
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