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re: Do you know anyone who has quit following LSU football due to NIL and transfer portal?
Posted on 7/21/25 at 1:18 pm to LSBoosie
Posted on 7/21/25 at 1:18 pm to LSBoosie
quote:College Football used to be a sport built on commitment, passion and tradition of your school. Now, it is a mercenary sport where the players prioritize their personal financial gain over team loyalty or tradition. And, most are throwing away the free education that most people would kill for. There used to be no way to stay on track to graduate if you transfer every year but the NCAA allows that to happen and prints out the fake diplomas with their new "guaranteed transfer pathway" to a degree in 4 years at 4 different schools.
What is the exact reason then?
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 2:15 pm to XbengalTiger
The passion seems to have certainly dwindled over the last few years
Posted on 7/21/25 at 2:21 pm to Tigerlaff
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I have completely checked out of recruiting.
Exactly. Could care less. I am in the deer stand more now when I would never miss a game unless I had to.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 2:32 pm to XbengalTiger
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College Football used to be a sport built on commitment, passion and tradition of your school.
Sometimes, but not always.
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Now, it is a mercenary sport where the players prioritize their personal financial gain over team loyalty or tradition.
Sometimes, but not always.
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And, most are throwing away the free education that most people would kill for.
College athletes have been doing this long, long before NIL and the transfer portal.
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There used to be no way to stay on track to graduate if you transfer every year but the NCAA allows that to happen and prints out the fake diplomas with their new "guaranteed transfer pathway" to a degree in 4 years at 4 different schools.
Do you actually care about this? Like when you are watching a game, is this what is going through your head?
Posted on 7/21/25 at 2:39 pm to LSBoosie
quote:Not I.
Do you actually care about this? Like when you are watching a game, is this what is going through your head?
When I'm watching the game it's for the enjoyment of the game and of the players in an LSU uniform.
Where they were the prior year, how much they are making through NIL and where they are going the following year matters not.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 2:45 pm to Paul Allen
I think having a 12 team playoff has lowered my interest more than NIL and portal. Those two have played a role in my continuing decline of interest for recruiting, but having 12 teams now waters down the regular season. The gigantic matchups don’t really matter that much anymore. The championship games are much more meaningless.
The second biggest impact is the portal itself. Not having guys for 3-5 years and throughout the roster makes me not have an attachment for the team as much. Watching guys develop and grow into stars is becoming a thing of the past. You have guys that are here for 1-2 years now that you barely get to enjoy.
The second biggest impact is the portal itself. Not having guys for 3-5 years and throughout the roster makes me not have an attachment for the team as much. Watching guys develop and grow into stars is becoming a thing of the past. You have guys that are here for 1-2 years now that you barely get to enjoy.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 3:09 pm to Alt26
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If an 18 year old is a brilliant singer, artist, actor, scientist, musician, hell, even a baseball player, no one bats an eye that the free market allows them to generate millions of dollars in earnings.
Yawn. Blah, blah, poor athletes, blah blah. Sorry that I dont choose to ignore the realities that they were:
1) getting more compensation than 99% of the musicians/artists/etc. that you mentioned, in room, board, training, exposure, medical care, education, and everything else; and
2) had fought and worked tirelessly to earn the opportunity to completely voluntarily restrict their own income potential. It will fall on deaf (and ignorant) ears yet again, I'm sure, but I will once again remind everyone that the NCAA never once restricted or interfered with any athlete getting paid for jobs, NIL, etc. The NCAA only dealt with their eligibility.
As I've said before, I'm not that much of a fan of pro football. But when I do want to watch it, the best pro football in the world is on Sundays, so I have zero interest in another junior league knock-off like the WLAF, NFL-Europe, XFL, etc. What I have been deeply passionate about my entire life is college football, where LSU students represent their classmates, alumni, and LSU against a bunch of students from other schools representing their classmates, alumni and universities. So long as we have that (at least in theory), I'll probably still be emotionally invested. But the more we make it into a second-rate pro league, the less emotional investment there is likely to be.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 3:22 pm to Paul Allen
The narrative that all SEC football players are overpaid prima donnas is a joke. They are all about to go through Fall camp and they are going to bust their asses like every player before them. Players are better than ever and as committed to the process as ever…once they show up and join the team. Recruiting is different…but it’s always changed…
Posted on 7/21/25 at 3:44 pm to Paul Allen
It’s more about the laundry (uniform) than what was the team I used to follow. Lost a lot for me. Love Tigers and will follow but interest fell a few notches.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 3:46 pm to Paul Allen
I think a lot of us would like to, but if you are a real fan it's like a habit. You tune in. I don't like the current situation, but I'm a real fan and can't stay away.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 3:58 pm to Paul Allen
quote:agreed. I don't figure out who's on the roster until halfway through the season, and then I don't care because I know many will put themselves up for sale at the end of the year and be gone.
The passion seems to have certainly dwindled over the last few years
Hard to emotionally buy-in when the players are just mercenaries who'll be gone after a year.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:04 pm to Alt26
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But I don't see how the actual games themselves have changed because of NIL. Roster turnover has always been a big part of college football.
That’s 100% bull shite. LSU has lost 60% of the 2023 class and they are not the worst in the SEC. The freaking backbone of a great team are your Jrs.
There’s an article in the Advocate today refuting exactly what you’ve just stated about changes in roster management. It has NEVER been this bad and I go back a hell of a long time.
They need to sit after 1 transfer and that will stop some of this shite. LINK
This table didn’t paste well. The first number are the % lost from the 2023 class. The second is the total number signed. The third is the number lost. The fourth is other reasons for leaving such as medical.
So Arkansas lost 86% of their 2023 class or 17 of 21 due to transfer and 1 for another reason.
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2023 Recruiting Classes in the SEC
Team name % of HS signees gone Total signees Transfers Out Other reason for leaving
Arkansas 86 21 17 1
Mississippi State 81 26 19 2
Kentucky 63 19 12
Oklahoma 60 25 15
LSU 60 25 14 1
Auburn 59 22 11 2
Ole Miss 56 16 9
Tennessee 56 25 13 1
South Carolina 52 23 9 3
Vanderbilt 48 23 9 2
Georgia 46 26 10 2
Alabama 42 26 11
Texas A&M 42 19 8
Florida 30 20 6
Texas 28 25 7
Missouri 28 18 4 1“
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:18 pm to Paul Allen
I dont follow recruiting as close anymore. I used to be all in on it. I'd wake up early for signing day(that was ruined by the whole early signing day bs). I'd turn on ESPN for all the announcements. Now, I'll check in from time to time, and look at the class at the end of the day for ESD, and I dont even pay attention to it in February. I barely watch the NFL due to the no call. I'll watch all the LSU games but beyond that I don't care anymore.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:32 pm to Goalpost
There will be eventually but for the next few years it’s going to be the same, low quality slop.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:43 pm to Tigers4Lyfe
quote:I wonder what the number would be if you ruled out all the corporations that have bought tickets for clients to use.
71,250 in 2024. We'll see about 2025.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 5:04 pm to StatMaster
I have checked out recruiting. Only pay attention close to signing day now. Still watch all the games but I must say the lack of defense is deflating because that was our team identity when I was growing up watching the tigers. I’m 35 now.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 6:25 pm to Tigerlaff
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I have completely checked out of recruiting
Me to
I now root for the helmet not the players
Posted on 7/21/25 at 6:40 pm to Paul Allen
I will never quit following football but don’t follow recruiting as passionately as I used to
Posted on 7/21/25 at 6:46 pm to Paul Allen
I wish I could say I did but I just can’t
Posted on 7/21/25 at 6:56 pm to Paul Allen
LSU has gained more than it has lost from transfer portal. 2 heismans, 1 nati. Only good players we lost are Heard OLman to Tenn, and that CB who went to Kentucky and plays on Cowboys maybe? But we have gained more imo than lost. Maybe that WR who went to OK St who was a 5 star too.
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